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Re: Google Maps now requires WiFi scanning to use navigation

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If you have an iPhone and haven't been using Apple Maps, it's basically on par now with Google Maps for navigation. I hadn't tried Apple Maps for years because of how bad it used to be, and was pleasantly surprised to find the maps are incredibly accurate and turn by turn navigation is rock solid. I haven't touched Google Maps in months, and this post is reminding me that it's time to just uninstall it

What I found is that google maps EXCELS in redirecting past traffic jams and what have you, when driving (cross Europe) and really no other navigation available to me (iPhone) does that even remotely as reliable.

EDIT: Meaning I am able to keep my wheels rolling and do not end up in traffic jams.

Re: Google Maps now requires WiFi scanning to use navigation

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Is there an iOS 3rd-party app which can provide on-device outbound firewalling across all apps?

Yes, AdGuard seems to do so and IIRC also has customizable block lists. The default includes Safari-only blocking but it is able to add a device-wide filter using Apple's API for VPNs. It seems to identify the various trackers used by the social media apps on my device, for instance. App store link: https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1047223162 GitHub link: https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdguardForiOS System-wi…

Thank you!

Re: Google Maps now requires WiFi scanning to use navigation

#383

Not related to Google maps, but just today I got tired of the Amazon app sending me "you might like this deal" notifications and dug into whether it's possible to disable them. You can , but if you do, Amazon will no longer send Amazon "Smile" micro-donations to whatever charity you've selected: https://i.imgur.com/wNAkUAT.jpeg . I can't say that this is underhanded, but it does cast into sharp relief the fact that A…

On iOS, such marketing notifications is supposed to be against the developer guidelines but I regularly see Uber, Ubereats and other high profile companies break those rules without any repercussions.

Even Apple has broken that guideline[1]. They have since changed the rule and those are now allowed if the user agrees[2].

For Uber, disable those in Settings > Privacy > Notifications > Discounts and News.

[1]: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/18/18229492/apple-music-push...

[2]: https://9to5mac.com/2020/03/04/apple-now-allows-push-notific...

Re: Google Maps now requires WiFi scanning to use navigation

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post #383

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On iOS, such marketing notifications is supposed to be against the developer guidelines but I regularly see Uber, Ubereats and other high profile companies break those rules without any repercussions.

Even Apple has broken that guideline[1]. They have since changed the rule and those are now allowed if the user agrees[2]. For Uber, disable those in Settings > Privacy > Notifications > Discounts and News. [1]: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/18/18229492/apple-music-push... [2]: https://9to5mac.com/2020/03/04/apple-now-allows-push-notific...

Ah didn’t know Apple changed the guidelines.

Re: Google Maps now requires WiFi scanning to use navigation

#385

> I immediately installed Organic Maps, and I'm sure there are loads of others as an option. Here are OSM -based maps applications for Android .[0,1] Not all OSM-based Android apps listed on OpenStreetMap Wiki, so check out also maps apps in various F-Droid repos.[2] Also here are maps apps for Symbian[3,4] and Maemo[5]. For other platforms there are also a lot of other apps.[6] [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wik…

Does anyone have a favorite that has worked well for them?

Osmand is the best. You can use offline maps, I highly recommend it.

Have been using it for six years now.

Search is good enough.

I don't know if there is an alternative.

Re: Google Maps now requires WiFi scanning to use navigation

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Try OSMAnd. I started using it because it allows you to download huge areas as vector maps for offline use. But I find myself slowly using it more and more. The only things missing that keep me using gmaps are search, reviews / places, and directions that factor traffic (not a biggie tbh). However, I've been playing with mapbox and, without any prior experience whatsoever got a traffic overlay working within a few ho…

I find Windy Maps feels more polished, and quicker at routing. It's cycling routing seems to work better for me than Google maps too. I just wish it could load in GPX files like OsmAnd can.

Re: Google Maps now requires WiFi scanning to use navigation

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this was supported with Xprivacy many years ago and it was fantastic, but it stopped getting support. The entire pro-privacy android scene seems to have become a very small niche over the years

That's mainly googles fault. Xposed still lives on somewhat with the Riru project, but even a rooted phone without any mods will fail securitynet checks today, rendering it useless for most consumers that would have been willing to do the process before. With every android version things become less modular and less moddable, so the community shrinks as a consequence.

that's why this needs to be built directly into alternate roms, like graphene, /e/ or even lineage so this feature is available on those roms without the user needing to root their phone.

Re: Google Maps now requires WiFi scanning to use navigation

#388
post #125

If you have an iPhone and haven't been using Apple Maps, it's basically on par now with Google Maps for navigation. I hadn't tried Apple Maps for years because of how bad it used to be, and was pleasantly surprised to find the maps are incredibly accurate and turn by turn navigation is rock solid. I haven't touched Google Maps in months, and this post is reminding me that it's time to just uninstall it

What I found is that google maps EXCELS in redirecting past traffic jams and what have you, when driving (cross Europe) and really no other navigation available to me (iPhone) does that even remotely as reliable. EDIT: Meaning I am able to keep my wheels rolling and do not end up in traffic jams.

Why not Waze then? It's where google buys traffic data anyway. You also get police / speedcam etc locations and reporting.

Re: Google Maps now requires WiFi scanning to use navigation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

this was supported with Xprivacy many years ago and it was fantastic, but it stopped getting support. The entire pro-privacy android scene seems to have become a very small niche over the years

That's mainly googles fault. Xposed still lives on somewhat with the Riru project, but even a rooted phone without any mods will fail securitynet checks today, rendering it useless for most consumers that would have been willing to do the process before. With every android version things become less modular and less moddable, so the community shrinks as a consequence.

It's still possible to use XPrivacyLua (https://github.com/M66B/XPrivacyLua) with passing SafetyNet. It's a cat-and-mouse game, but the community is still ahead.

You can achieve this with latest Magisk (v24+, https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk), enabled Zygisk and following modules:

- LSposed Zygisk (https://github.com/LSPosed/LSPosed, fork of Xposed)

- Universal SafetyNet Fix (https://github.com/kdrag0n/safetynet-fix)

- Shamiko [optional, more hiding but needs configuration] (https://github.com/LSPosed/LSPosed.github.io)

Re: Google Maps now requires WiFi scanning to use navigation

#390

Here we go again. Users desperately need an abstraction layer in Android that can spoof sensor data on a per-application basis. In this case, the spoofing layer could be set up such that whenever Google Maps uses the Android API to ask "Is wifi location sensing turned on" the spoofing layer would say "Yes." When GM asks "What wifi networks are around?" the spoofing layer would say "None." (Even better would be for it…

Can't happen. Maps uses Google Location Services, which is built into Android and replaces the default, raw-sensor location provider for all applications. They have sunk their rootkit deep. You can't do this without uninstalling Google Play Services.
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