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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by autumnbuzz »

neogodless wrote: post #737
hatch_q wrote: post #696

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Users won't lose anything purchased - your google login will stay the same (Same as you can use your Yahoo e-mail as google login), you will just lose g suite domain hosting.

I'm not following your line of thought. G Suite domain hosting includes the email address and the user licenses (albeit free ones.) If you stop paying for G Suite (Google Workspace) the user licenses will be revoked. They will not be able to login to Google services, access Play Store / Music / Movies purchases, etc.

Yes they will:

"If you don’t upgrade to a Google Workspace subscription, you will not lose access to other Google Services, including YouTube, Google Photos, and Google Play, nor paid content, including YouTube and Play Store purchases."

Source: https://support.google.com/a/answer/60217?hl=en#zippy=%2Cwha...

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by autumnbuzz »

deadgiveaway wrote: post #895
neogodless wrote: post #737

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not following your line of thought. G Suite domain hosting includes the email address and the user licenses (albeit free ones.) If you stop paying for G Suite (Google Workspace) the user licenses will be revoked. They will not be able to login to Google services, access Play Store / Music / Movies purchases, etc.

I don't think there's a "line of thought". This isn't a logic problem - it's a business decision. Whatever Google wants to happen will happens. And some people have interpreted the available information - or have spoken to google representatives - and been told that they'll be able to keep using "additional" services such as music, movies, youtube, photos. And - this being google - other people have been told the opp…

The offical FAQ has been updated with this:

"What happens to my additional Google services and paid content if I don’t want to pay for Google Workspace premium features?

If you don’t upgrade to a Google Workspace subscription, you will not lose access to other Google Services, including YouTube, Google Photos, and Google Play, nor paid content, including YouTube and Play Store purchases."

https://support.google.com/a/answer/60217?hl=en#zippy=%2Cwha...

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by autumnbuzz »

breakingcups wrote: post #894
unmole wrote: post #564

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> The loss of Youtube purchases; android play purchases, etc. is going to hurt. If you migrate to a different email provider, you won't lose access to any of your purchases.

Do you have a definitive source form Google on that? There seem to be conflicting messages from Google. (Not helped by the "may" wording on this page: https://apps.google.com/supportwidget/articlehome?article_ur... )

Yes, the official FAQ has been updated with the following:

"What happens to my additional Google services and paid content if I don’t want to pay for Google Workspace premium features?

If you don’t upgrade to a Google Workspace subscription, you will not lose access to other Google Services, including YouTube, Google Photos, and Google Play, nor paid content, including YouTube and Play Store purchases."

Source: https://support.google.com/a/answer/60217?hl=en#zippy=%2Cwha...

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by autumnbuzz »

rssoconnor wrote: post #932
SergeAx wrote: post #287

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G Suite Business Starter is $6/user. Even if you find something viable for, say, $3/user (and I really doubt so), it just not worth the fuss with migration.

From what I've read, Rackspace Email is $3 per user per month. And iCloud+ is $1/month for up to 5 users for 5 domains with up to 3 addresses per domain per user.

Rackspace has a 10 user minimum.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by obelix74 »

I am more or less done moving out of Google Workspace. This is what worked for me.

TL/DR:

- Create gmail accounts for each user - Configure POP3 at their domain gmail accounts - Pull email from domain to gmail - Move their google drive and google photos from domain - Disconnect google workspace from google domain - Setup email forwards at google domain from personal domain to gmail

Details here.

https://blog.anands.net/freeing-your-domain-from-google-work...

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by neop1x »

szundi wrote: post #835

I find it interesting that there are already 79 comments and no one remembers: this was advertised back then as "FREE FOREVER". Even before that I was a beta user, quite sad that Google is not wealthy enough to keep its promise.

Yes, the original ToS [1] for Google Apps:

17. Modification. Except as provided in Section 18, Google reserves the right to change or modify any of the terms and conditions contained in this Agreement [...]

18. Fees. Provided that Google continues to offer the Service to Customer, Google will continue to provide a version of the Service (with substantially the same services as those provided as of the Effective Date) free of charge to Customer; provided that such commitment: (i) does not apply to the Domain Service described in Section 4 above; and (ii) may not apply to new opt-in services added by Google to the Service in the future. For sake of clarity, Google reserves the right to offer a premium version of the Service for a fee.

[1] http://web.archive.org/web/20090211101551/http://google.com/...

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by neop1x »

If this service weren't free and weren't advertised as free forever (see the original ToS [1]), more people would run their own email server and e-mail would be less centralized.

[1] http://web.archive.org/web/20090211101551/http://google.com/...

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by jakemauer »

slawekrewaj wrote: post #716
nighthawk454 wrote: post #217

"I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further". The problem here is there's no way out now. If 15 years ago you made the mistake of wanting gasp a domain for your email, you're basically roped into paying now. Almost everything a free G Suite user wants is identical to the free @gmail account, which is remaining free. Except the custom domain. Fine - but there's no way to just lose the custom domain at t…

There is no need to nuke all Google accounts. You can switch to the free edition of Cloud Identity - https://support.google.com/cloudidentity/answer/7319251?hl=e... You will still need to find the replacement for gmail etc though

All I see when I go to the Cloud Identity part of the Admin Panel's "Get More Services" page is a happy little coffee cup unhelpfully stating "You're getting the best out of Google. We will notify you when new subscriptions become available."

So I guess I'm not able to use that then.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by brewdad »

emrah wrote: post #923
signal11 wrote: post #499

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> You're complaining that a service you use all the time for a decade for free now might cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee per month? It’s easy to paint customers as frightful moaners, but that’s a surefire way to lose customers, or at least alienate them. Google’s Reader debacle comes to mind. In particular, the short notice period (3 months + 2 months grace) for something people have been using for a decade is…

Someone not paying, using the free tier is by definition not a "customer". At least not yet, they are a potential customer at best.

Google makes a hell of a lot of money from me and people like me by selling ads based on multiple aspects of our lives. Spare me the "I'm not a customer" BS.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by p2t2p »

unionpivo wrote: post #940
p2t2p wrote: post #921

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Just use iCloud. It allows you to setup custom domains no worries and give emails to everyone who’s included into your family plan. I’ve got two custom domains setup that I share with my wife.

Don't have any apple devices, not sure if i even can.

For you it is Fastmail then, they are awesome and integrate with 1Password for an-email-per-service thing (known as Hide My Email in Apple's world)
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