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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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> In particular, the short notice period (3 months + 2 months grace) for something people have been using for a decade is jarring. For me, this raises the obvious question. How long a notice period is long enough? Six months? Eight? A year? Five years? A decade? I think we can all agree that a decade would be an excessive and unreasonable expectation. > By the same token, people have been using free Gmail accounts fo…

How long a notice period is long enough? Looking at it another way, Google's most recent net profit is $18.94 billion per quarter. I have no idea but if there are 1 million G Suite Legacy accounts out there at $60 per year. That would increase their revenue $60 million per year. So just assume all that revenue is net profit which would make their quarterly net profit go from $18.94 billion to $18.955 billion for the…

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I wonder how much extra revenue would be generated out of this move? Google stock to the moon?

I was trying to find this discussion. How many if these accounts actually exist and how many if them do they think will actually convert.

Reading the comments I found a number of things:

- There are actually a lot of these accounts.

- A lot of people were paying for extra storage anyways.

But it still seems like the math doesn't work out. They are probably using a lot of current users for adding services like YouTube premium, extra space, Google Pay... as well as losing a lot of future users because they have just pissed them off. A lot of buisbesses that may have naturally expanded might just migrate to new providers now and angry people may pick other providers in the future.

It seems like maintaining this must have cost near zero. Overall it was likely actually profitable if you count total cost for these accounts vs all spend. There is probably a decent amount of new revenue, but a lot of this probably would have occured naturally on its own and you are cutting off this marketing forever.

It seems like I must be missing the true reason. Unless they really, really whatef that short-term small profit bump.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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You're complaining that a service you use all the time for a decade for free now might cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee per month? I'm all about Google being evil and all that, but spending valuable aggression on this seems a bit excessive.. The Google Takeout system gives you all of your email in a format you might be able to import into another system?

I host 7 emails right now, it'd cost $500/year for email moving forward. I'd be happy to convert accounts to personal Gmail accounts and do mail forwarding. I'd be happy to move to a family plan for $100/year. After being a user for a decade, you'd think Google would provide me a reasonable way to pay them for their services. But I can't swing $500/year for email.

ZOHO mail works for me. The entry level premium account is €0.9/user/month. Free tier is reasonable too (up to 5 users). I find their web UI a bit overloaded with features, but they have all check boxes crossed.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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So for regular users, does this mean my google docs, sheets, photos will be gone? What is G Suite vs Workspace? Or will all my docs be ported over and I'll still have access?

As far as I can tell there is no way to change the owner of these files. Youcan presumably make a copy of these one-by-one after sharing with a new account?

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I'm definitely getting screwed over by this. I've hosted close friend's and family's email for a decade now on an old G Apps instance. We only ever used it for email on a custom domain. It was most useful because I could reset passwords for them if they forgot it. Now I'm going to have to figure out what to do. Microsoft's Family offering is way better (not saying much considering Google doesn't have one). Right now…

I never got this e-mail. Does that mean I'm not subject to this?

I've not got this either and its not in the admin console. I'm guessing I'll see it in the next couple of days. Think I'll be moving to Zoho mail.

Fortunately, all my Google stuff like Youtube and Google Play purchases are tied to a gmail account. I intentionally didn't use my custom domain for that, as I thought this would happen one day. I didn't expect the free email to last so long though.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I'm definitely getting screwed over by this. I've hosted close friend's and family's email for a decade now on an old G Apps instance. We only ever used it for email on a custom domain. It was most useful because I could reset passwords for them if they forgot it. Now I'm going to have to figure out what to do. Microsoft's Family offering is way better (not saying much considering Google doesn't have one). Right now…

I totally get that this is largely about losing a decade of "purchased" stuff that is tied to the email address, meaning you're being heavily steered into starting paying for emails etc just to keep your purchased movies, apps, and so on. If you do decide to move away it may not be as bad as you expect for the everyday email, contacts, and calendar. In particular when it comes to your email you probably don't need to…

Users won't lose anything purchased - your google login will stay the same (Same as you can use your Yahoo e-mail as google login), you will just lose g suite domain hosting.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I totally get that this is largely about losing a decade of "purchased" stuff that is tied to the email address, meaning you're being heavily steered into starting paying for emails etc just to keep your purchased movies, apps, and so on. If you do decide to move away it may not be as bad as you expect for the everyday email, contacts, and calendar. In particular when it comes to your email you probably don't need to…

Users won't lose anything purchased - your google login will stay the same (Same as you can use your Yahoo e-mail as google login), you will just lose g suite domain hosting.

Doesn't affect me, but that's useful info for those caught up in this - thanks.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I'm definitely getting screwed over by this. I've hosted close friend's and family's email for a decade now on an old G Apps instance. We only ever used it for email on a custom domain. It was most useful because I could reset passwords for them if they forgot it. Now I'm going to have to figure out what to do. Microsoft's Family offering is way better (not saying much considering Google doesn't have one). Right now…

Your use-case could be well solved by Cloudflare's email forwarding[1]. I'm contemplating switching since I'm already on Google One. [1][ https://www.cloudflare.com/apps/email-forwarding ]

That is a third party paid app.

The Cloudflare one is in preview https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-routing/

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Is there an equivalent of Microsoft’s Home Use Program (HUP) for Google Workspace? HUP gets you Microsoft 365 (Office apps, OneDrive, ad-free email with a 50GB quota and one custom domain) for your family, with 30% off list price for people using Microsoft solutions at work — which is most office workers, assuming their employers have opted in. It’d be nice to see something similar from Google.

The 365 Family plan is $99/year, total (not per person), for up to 6 people, and you can use your own domain.

And each of those 6 come with 1TB of onedrive and 6 devices of Office apps

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I switched to Fastmail about 6 months ago after a decade on Google Apps. Yes, it’s paid, but I like it.

The problem isn't just mail. Mail is easy to migrate, but this means you either pay, or you lose access to everything you bought on that account, like Android apps, music, YouTube premium (and playlists), and so on

I can’t help you there. I don’t rely on those other things much. I still buy all my mp3s and I don’t have many apps on my iPhone. It was partly principled opposition, partly indifference.
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