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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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post #779

It would be cheaper to go with iCloud+ service which offers custom email domains. I am now considering that after being on the free legacy plan for all of these years. https://support.apple.com/guide/icloud/add-a-custom-domain-m...

Can you use it for things like e-mail if everyone doesn't use Apple stuff?

For setup you may need iOS device at first but I don't think it is tied to it. I am using a lot of Apple devices so not a problem for me but maybe if you dont and do not have Apple ID.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#832

From what I've seen, the biggest issue here is that you cannot transfer purchased Google Play Store purchases. Even without the G Suite thing, this is a problem. For example, I have a fairly unprofessional primary Google account that I created when I was young and dumb(er). I would like to transfer the hundreds of dollars in purchases I've made under that account to another, more appropriately named, account but it d…

My understanding now is that even if you let the forced Google Workspace account lapse, the underlying accounts will continue to function as Google Accounts. You will not have access to Email, Documents, Photos, Calendar, etc. but you will still be able to login to Google and use Play Store purchases.

Only until they are inevitably turned off down the road. Such legacy things never stick for too long.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#833

I find the outrage here quite amazing. This tier has been deprecated for about 10 years already. Furthermore, the costs to upgrade are not egregious, most everyone here would not have a big problem with it. Also, it's not like one is losing one's email address -- you control the domain...

I find ~$1000 a year for just email accounts for three humans to be egregious (the non-humans are service accounts for things like NAS, printer, or TeamCity/Jenkins).

If all you need from GSuite is email, then hosting yourself with https://mailinabox.email/ is an alternative that worked for me, until I realised that https://www.fastmail.com/pricing/ on a yearly plan was cheaper than the cheapest hetzner VM I could get for hosting it myself.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#834
post #781

It's sad that the MBA's have finally taken over at Google, and now they have to squeeze every last penny out of their customers (on top of all the ads they sell). The worst part of all this, is most of us casual users just want to do email, nothing else. I personally don't have a high enough volume of email to even warrant paying out for most services.

If you want to use a custom domain with gmail for free do this: https://medium.com/wolfpak-labs/custom-email-with-domain-for...

The article's technique relies on the Domain Registrar providing email forwarding. But I would recommend not using Google Domains. If and when Google's AI bans your gmail account, you lose access to the DNS configurations of your custom domain. And it will be impossible to move the domain to another Registrar because Google Domains will require you to verify ownership with your gmail account, which it has terminated. You can try to do this with a 3rd party domain registrar. Just make sure that your domain's admin account is NOT gmail.

Also, the article assumes that email forwarding is all that you want from a custom domain. Legacy GSuite users may be using other Google features and products, such as Calendar, Contacts, Groups, etc.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#836
So, we enter the brave new world of extortion for data held hostage. Cool. I wonder if Google has factored in what this will do to their brand image, the cost in the longer term will likely far outstrip the savings and the resulting income from sign ups.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#837

If you want to keep the google accounts working for things that free (photos, YouTube etc) you can switch first to the business essentials plan and then to the cloud identity plan. Then you can move the email elsewhere but the google accounts still work. This was essential for me as I used g suite for my family and some are using it for photos.

Yes, this is the way. Info about Cloud Identity Free: https://support.google.com/cloudidentity/answer/7319251 Steps for adding Cloud Identity Free: https://support.google.com/cloudidentity/topic/7555155 You will only lose access to Gmail and Calendar, though make sure you migrate email and calendar before moving to Cloud Identity Free. Disclaimer: i haven't followed the steps myself since i'm paying for a personal Wo…

So say your custom domain is example.com and you have a user who logs in with me@example.com that has data in Google Gmail, Drive, Photos and Calendar. What are the migration steps? I'm finding this really confusing.

Backup Gmail and Calendar, switch to business essentials plan, then cloud identity plan, set up email for me@example.com with some other provider and you can still use me@example.com to access your old Drive and Photos?

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find ~$1000 a year for just email accounts for three humans to be egregious (the non-humans are service accounts for things like NAS, printer, or TeamCity/Jenkins).

Wow. Why is it so much? I saw the $6/month per user plan, which would be $216 for three humans. Is that a massively discounted (80%) introductory price?

$6 is the real price and not introductory. Even the most expensive standard plan (Business plus) is $18/month and would be $648 year for 3 ppl. Not sure where they got $1000.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#839
post #743

The correct answer here is takeout + rclone, right ? We're actually writing a detailed HOWTO about this workflow, mostly centered on gmail since you can't interface with gmail (directly) using rclone. Regardless, it is rclone that (in my opinion) makes this quite a bit less impactful.

I don't understand what you're suggesting using rclone for how. I'd be interested in reading your article.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#840

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find ~$1000 a year for just email accounts for three humans to be egregious (the non-humans are service accounts for things like NAS, printer, or TeamCity/Jenkins).

Wow. Why is it so much? I saw the $6/month per user plan, which would be $216 for three humans. Is that a massively discounted (80%) introductory price?

the $6/mo isn't discounted. cosmotic has 14+ email accounts for some reason.
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