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Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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I think I'm getting something different from this than what the author intended. * They mention their study hall as a "super spreader event". This feels...hysterical to me. Not just because it worries me that this kid is thinking about this in the way they are, but also because it's wrong . The risk this person faces is much more likely from the HVAC system in the school, not the study hall. * The way they talk about…

> * They mention their study hall as a "super spreader event". This feels...hysterical to me. Not just because it worries me that this kid is thinking about this in the way they are, but also because it's wrong. The risk this person faces is much more likely from the HVAC system in the school, not the study hall. The kids were packed into an overcrowded auditorium so much that they completely ran out of seats and had…

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Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

#542

I think I'm getting something different from this than what the author intended. * They mention their study hall as a "super spreader event". This feels...hysterical to me. Not just because it worries me that this kid is thinking about this in the way they are, but also because it's wrong . The risk this person faces is much more likely from the HVAC system in the school, not the study hall. * The way they talk about…

> * They mention their study hall as a "super spreader event". This feels...hysterical to me. Not just because it worries me that this kid is thinking about this in the way they are, but also because it's wrong. The risk this person faces is much more likely from the HVAC system in the school, not the study hall. The kids were packed into an overcrowded auditorium so much that they completely ran out of seats and had…

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Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

#543
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> Sweden has kept its schooling open (although it has had covid outbreaks, but the numbers were similar to Finland where the schools were closed). Sweden suffered 1,504 deaths per million, while Finland had 295. To call them "similar" is disinformative, at best.

Not really, you are talking about overall, while the data I was presenting was mostly specific to the topic at hand: School kids. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-sweden...

COVID is an asymptomatic spreader - it's difficult to conclude that the school kids didn't end up spreading the disease to older individuals.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

#544

>90% of conversations about covid, it has taken over daily life this is what the powers that be want to happen. they want you to live in a state of panic and fear. when i was in school (i am 30 now), i had many severe illnesses like pneumonia twice, shingles, mono, staph. nobody ever gave a shit, and nobody died.

Actually yes people do die from pneumonia & staph.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

#545
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The vaccine does not work for people with suppressed immune systems

Considering there are immunosuppressed people who can’t get vaccinated, and that covid is unlikely to ever go away, are you saying that we should continue with covid restrictions forever?

We could at least manage things so hospitals are not overwhelmed. Lots of people are dieing simply because they are swamped.

Also, there are several promising therapies that should help this population. Even a few months for them to ramp up availability will help a lot.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Even if it is not dangerous to them, it gives really fertile grounds for spread to student’s families, friends, etc who may be in the vulnerable group.

Even if is not dangerous to them, it could be tomorrow. We are just giving the virus more and more time to kill us and golden opportunities to mutate again, maybe the next time for a sudden worse turn. And we call ourselves a smart species... The non vaccinated people are a life saver from the point of view of the organism and this people are purposely destroying the economy for everybody.

At this point vaccinated people are getting it at rates that are just silly. I know a ton of people with COVID right now, and the vast majority are vaxed.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

#547

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Have you had COVID? Good luck teaching a room full of 6 year olds with active symptoms. This is what people are essentially asking for right now, at least in certain districts where 10%+ of the teaching staff are out with symptomatic COVID.

I had covid. My kids had covid. My parents had covid. My neighbors had covid. My cat had covid (snotting - no test). You will get covid. The war is lost. Unless, you move to northern Alaska and do no visit shops - and use the land. But that is death.

I think you're missing my point. It's not about avoiding COVID right now. It's about the fact too many teachers have it simultaneously and do not feel well enough to teach.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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post #514

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Good thing high school students never live in multigenerational households, right? Or otherwise have family members at high risk?

When a virus is endemic, it means everyone will get it. Which means most of these precautions are ultimately worthless - other than to flatten the curve and relieve the burden on services. But oh, how long have we been "flattening the curve" now?

> When a virus is endemic, it means everyone will get it. Which means most of these precautions are ultimately worthless -

This couldn't be more wrong.

Even if everyone eventually gets it, you'd much rather get it as late as possible and outside of an infection spike like this one where rescue medications are depleted and hospitals are overburdened.

The medical knowledge and treatment options available today are far, far better than what we had at the beginning of the pandemic. And they continue to improve. Availability of the best treatments is also scarce, but continues to improve. The virus itself also appears to be slowly mutating to less fatal versions.

Even if you think it's inevitable, you want to delay it as long as possible.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

#549

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I had covid. My kids had covid. My parents had covid. My neighbors had covid. My cat had covid (snotting - no test). You will get covid. The war is lost. Unless, you move to northern Alaska and do no visit shops - and use the land. But that is death.

I think you're missing my point. It's not about avoiding COVID right now. It's about the fact too many teachers have it simultaneously and do not feel well enough to teach.

I think there's a gap in the assumption of good-faith somewhere in this chain.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

#550

>90% of conversations about covid, it has taken over daily life this is what the powers that be want to happen. they want you to live in a state of panic and fear. when i was in school (i am 30 now), i had many severe illnesses like pneumonia twice, shingles, mono, staph. nobody ever gave a shit, and nobody died.

Actually yes people do die from pneumonia & staph.

While people do die from pneumonia and staph, I am giving you the anecdotal evidence that nobody in our school (or myself) died from it, which you cannot refute, because it is true.

While these sicknesses ARE deadly, nobody stopped their lives in considering them. And 100% of people did not die from it, though they could have.

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