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I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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As I type this, I'm infected with Covid. I have a wife and three kids, all tested positive. The oldest complained of a sore throat for one day, the others were "a bit tired" for two days. I've had it the worst. I had intestinal issues for 3 says and now have a mild sore throat and fatigue. Overall, I skipped about 2 half days of work because I felt tired. (I work from home) Omicron has swept through pretty much every…

What does this have to do with the article?

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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It will be year 3 of covid and this is 100% the fault of the same people who have created every other problem in the education system: the administrators. There is no perfect way to open schools, that much is certain after looking at other countries. But looking at the state of things, it doesn’t even seem like people are trying. Japan has students come in on alternate days, so that the school can operate at 50% capa…

> Sweden has kept its schooling open (although it has had covid outbreaks, but the numbers were similar to Finland where the schools were closed). Sweden suffered 1,504 deaths per million, while Finland had 295. To call them "similar" is disinformative, at best.

Not really, you are talking about overall, while the data I was presenting was mostly specific to the topic at hand: School kids. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-sweden...

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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You think a school being basically worthless when open because large numbers of teachers have become ill from infection spread, is some how a criticism of closing schools to prevent infection spread?

Are large numbers of teachers ill or large numbers of teachers too fearful/cautious to come in? If the former... in my own experience almost everyone fully recovers from covid without hospitalization in less than 2 weeks. So if dozens of teachers got sick... most or all should be back next week.

Great, close the school till there is adequate staffing to teach the curriculum.

Warehousing students is wrong (especially so when creating a super spreader study hall), our school systems should not hold kids hostage with threats like charging a kid with truancy if the school is not fully staffed.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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> I don’t understand why remote learning during this surge isn’t acceptable. Because "remote learning" is a joke. I volunteered a bit in a virtual high school classroom. The teacher running it is making a frankly heroic effort to keep her students in the school system at all. But no one was engaged, cameras were off, students regularly don't show up at all or drop off in the middle of class. These are comparatively a…

I don't think it has much to do with "learning." School is basically a babysitting / daycare service. They need the kids in school so the parents can work. At least the ones not privileged enough to "work from home" on a permanent basis, like many of us are here. Remote work is often a joke, too. Many, many people are completely checked out, burnt out after having to endure too many mentally draining and often pointl…

> Many, many people are completely checked out, burnt out after having to endure too many mentally draining and often pointless zoom meetings

so how come they are able to function pre-pandemic, having the same meetings in the office?

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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If students only come in every other day, schools will only receive 50% funding in the US. In Japan, schools are often privately funded, but a solution that cuts public funding of education by half in the US is a non-starter. It would likely take a constitutional amendment in California to change the school budget formula. But we’re not going to have a third year of COVID anyway. Nearly everyone is going to catch the…

I’m not aware of this funding logic but how does this even work? Like in COVID, all students were remote, but finding never stopped. And last I checked, if my kid doesn’t go to school for a week, school funding doesn’t get impacted. I mean coming in on alternate days doesn’t mean you’re not learning, you can still do online classes on that day.

In most states funding is related to attendance somehow, I think the details vary. At one time I think there was a thought that districts would take truancy and absences more seriously instead of ignore it if there was an impact to the bottom line.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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How many students that got sick are experiencing symptoms more severe than the common cold? It seems like the chaos is caused by the attempted solutions to covid and not the actual symptoms? Edit: 7 day rolling average of COVID cases according to https://www1.nyc.gov/ is 32k cases per day with 38 deaths. So there is a 0.1% mortality rate.

Most of the problems in the post are because the teachers are sick.

The kids are going to school. Teachers are out sick. Unless you have an infinite supply of teachers, it’s hard to keep schools running normally during a COVID outbreak.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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I’m mostly curious about why the maturity period was prolonged by 5-10 years from what the human race had 100 or 1000 years ago. I’m not talking about education but the transition from youths to adulthood.

Science seems to be pointed hard towards 25 being the age of majority rather than 18. We are unlikely to see the age move in our lifetimes due to the military needing its recruits but it probably should. Do you really think the average 14-15 year old should be considered in the same maturity bracket as the average 35 or 45 year old? I was incapable of making good decisions at that age. The things I thought were cool,…

I mostly agree with the maturity argument and because of that all the attempts to push more decision making (like voting) on younger people seem strange to me. But the most curious topic for me at the moment is why we are lowering our expectations for 18-25 years old. We used to see them as young but fully capable adults (granted that is a shift from 14-16 years from 100-1000 years ago). I understand the educational part of the argument as well but some of the trends seems very strange to me. For example: as far as I understand there is no strong expectation that ppl after high school know what they want to do and it’s normal to take 1-2 years break between school and college. Is it a new thing? I don’t really know. But I can’t find comparable breaks in history or other (less wealthy) societies. Health insurance cut off dates are 21 (25?) years old. University system seems more and more similar to a nice place to spend time (better dorms before better classes) than to the place to efficiently receive your education.

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Many schools are basically an incarceration like day care program.

You didn’t have “SCHOOL IS A PRISON” as random thing to shout back in your day?

no. i did have to go through a metal detect and xray every day to get into school though, certainly reinforced the prison feeling.

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This mindset- let the weak fend for themselves while the strong go on- is literally the justification for eugenics.

I said >COVID is imminent danger to the people with underlying conditions and they should practice maximum precautions(distance, masks etc. plus Vitamin D intake). So what is alternative? Let kids down the drain with their education and childhood.

The bottom of the slippery slope is what's going on in China right now. Worldwide, the non-ivermectin early treatment block of governments seems to want to slowly push everyone there.

In China, they have an app that ties to your social credit score that you need to show everywhere to do anything. It tells you you are ok, or you are banned from society until you test, or you have to go to quarantine camp indefinitely.

Ivermectin seems to be the big red line in the sand. Governments that promote it as a treatment don't want to go full China. Those that forbid it do.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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>90% of conversations about covid, it has taken over daily life

this is what the powers that be want to happen. they want you to live in a state of panic and fear.

when i was in school (i am 30 now), i had many severe illnesses like pneumonia twice, shingles, mono, staph. nobody ever gave a shit, and nobody died.

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