Russia sends troops to Kazakhstan to put down deadly uprising

Post by fivea » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 12:50 PM UTC

sausageman wrote: post #49

mlindner wrote: post #36

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"Backed by the west" is a common conspiracy theory pushed by Russian government. You should be asking yourself who's benefiting. The west does not benefit from anything related to those states, all oil they produce first flows through Russia. Russia benefits by having these states as basically feudal subservient states that they can extort for profit. (I will note that most western oil comes from the middle east with…

I went to school with a young kazak person I don't want to reveal to much about them, but let me just say this. Their parents had direct contact to the state and they were unaccountably rich went to an insanely expensive private school and owned various apartments all across Europe. The west DOES benefit from the corruption related to those states.

Post by pulse7 » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 12:51 PM UTC

Post by dandanua » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 12:55 PM UTC

NoOn3 wrote: post #53

dandanua wrote: post #26

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No no no, it's all the war between US and Russia, people are just dust, they can only be manipulated! /s (this is what every russian bot is saying)

You're right about something. But civil and peaceful protests cannot be so well organized and take place so quickly and occupy so many significant places. It looks too organized and therefore suspicious. Perhaps people are dissatisfied with the authorities and living conditions, but perhaps someone is trying to use the protests to their advantage and manage them.

Post by nmfisher » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 12:56 PM UTC

thejackgoode wrote: post #52

cmod wrote: post #37

My own experience in Kazakhstan a few years ago was amazing — kind, generous people. I had the most surreal (but standard) Russian Bath experience: sitting with a bunch of naked folks as they self-flog with branches in rooms so hot you needed wool caps to keep the top of your head from singeing. When I was getting dressed a huge guy next to me said something in Russian, I was certain I had committed some bath faux pa…

Being Eastern European, I can attest to the fact that this kindness and generosity (poorly abstracted as being passionate about things) has a flip side, and you don’t want to be on the opposite side of this treatment.

Post by throwaway4good » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 1:00 PM UTC

ralmidani wrote: post #35

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Well, given the US-Russia conflict over Ukraine, this conflict is awfully well-timed for the US.

Not everything in life is a conspiracy, and people often rebel spontaneously against their government. Not every revolution in a country ruled by Putin and Pals is waiting for The White House to give the green light. Also, did the US tell the regime in Kazakhstan to raise oil prices? That was, obviously, not the people’s only grievance, but it was the spark that lead to the protests and rebellion. The “US meddling” e…