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#32I traveled many post-Soviet countries in the past years with my old camping car. My personal impressions in Kazakhstan were frightening. A deeply corrupt state, much worse than Russia. Aggressive armed bandits in police uniform tried to rob me several times. Kazakhstan is true mafia state where every part of the regime tries to enrich itself at the expanse of the people. In contrast to the rich oil elite there are th…
In the case of Azerbaijan, my understanding is that western European companies have just blanket bribed more or less every official they interact with up and down the Azeri government for the past few decades, to help them set up contracts that are grossly unfair to the Azeri public. Oil money that does go to Azerbaijan gets embezzled away, with those companies’ knowledge and implicit support. I haven’t heard of anyo…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijani_laundromat
https://www.dw.com/en/how-german-politicians-have-aided-the-...
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Whataboutism anyone? You should've received your updated propaganda field guide by now, currently it is no longer advised to so blatantly point somewhere else.
I don't see anything whataboutism'y where one accuses a foreign state interfering in another state. (and I personally find Kazahstan's idea that rioters received foreign military training funny, since it's the cheapest excuse ex-USSR governments use when people are tired of the same people ruling the country for 20-30 years and start protesting)
For it to be whataboutism, it should include something along the lines of "What about... ?" that discredits an opponent with their own hypocrisy.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
>foreign interests I think he meant the US
Well, given the US-Russia conflict over Ukraine, this conflict is awfully well-timed for the US.
Also, did the US tell the regime in Kazakhstan to raise oil prices? That was, obviously, not the people’s only grievance, but it was the spark that lead to the protests and rebellion.
The “US meddling” excuse is a tired cliche, and insulting to the people who put their lives on the line to fight oppressive, corrupt regimes.
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#36I traveled many post-Soviet countries in the past years with my old camping car. My personal impressions in Kazakhstan were frightening. A deeply corrupt state, much worse than Russia. Aggressive armed bandits in police uniform tried to rob me several times. Kazakhstan is true mafia state where every part of the regime tries to enrich itself at the expanse of the people. In contrast to the rich oil elite there are th…
(I will note that most western oil comes from the middle east with Europe also getting a decent amount from Russia.)
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#37Almaty was surprisingly cosmopolitan, walkable, felt eminently livable.
Took the train to Baikonur. Walked on the launch pad, visited the old control rooms. [0]
The whole way: Kindness and gentleness were the two words that kept bouncing around my head. In the middle of nowhere folks were driving sensibly (as opposed to, say, in Morocco where I felt like every car ride was a dice roll). I saw two cars have an accident in Almaty — the drivers calmly stepped out, shook hands, and discussed the situation.
Nur-Sultan was, however, miserable — built for cars, human antagonistic, artificial layout, depressing architecture.
I'd love to get back to Almaty.
Hoping for swift and peaceful resolution on all this.
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ISIS (and Al-Qaeda) are predictable, convenient excuses for keeping dictatorships in the Muslim world. Before ISIS took over Raqqah and other territory in Syria and Iraq, it was the FSA (Free Syrian Army), not Assad, who kicked ISIS out of Aleppo and the Damascus countryside. When Putin intervened in 2015, the overwhelming majority of airstrikes targeted the FSA and civilian areas outside the control of both Assad an…
Seriously, that is not hard. What makes you think FSA are "moderate" headchopers and how are they any better than Assad? Just because they have "Free" in the name? Such naive thinking.
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#39My own government is giving me €400 this winter which is nice.
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Whataboutism anyone? You should've received your updated propaganda field guide by now, currently it is no longer advised to so blatantly point somewhere else.
Sorry, but it sounds like a cheap attempt to accuse the other party of propaganda and use the "whataboutism" card. I don't see anything whataboutism'y where one accuses a foreign state interfering in another state. (and I personally find Kazahstan's idea that rioters received foreign military training funny, since it's the cheapest excuse ex-USSR governments use when people are tired of the same people ruling the cou…
Click the first link, it writes that Americans attempted a regime change in Belarus, and instigated a war between Azerbaijan and Armenia.