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#22I traveled many post-Soviet countries in the past years with my old camping car. My personal impressions in Kazakhstan were frightening. A deeply corrupt state, much worse than Russia.
Aggressive armed bandits in police uniform tried to rob me several times. Kazakhstan is true mafia state where every part of the regime tries to enrich itself at the expanse of the people.
In contrast to the rich oil elite there are the normal people who often not even have tap water in the villages. And who live often in constant fear of being robbed by the armed forces.
But why is such a dysfunctional dictatorship so stable? Why did it last for three decades? The situation is very similar to Azerbaijan. I believe the answer is: it is backed by the West because a stable dictator in Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan guarantees the oil flow.
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Whataboutism anyone? You should've received your updated propaganda field guide by now, currently it is no longer advised to so blatantly point somewhere else.
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#24Just a few months ago it looked different, there were articles like this https://globalcomment.com/is-russia-losing-or-tightening-its... about US looking into getting an airbase and Tokayev trying to play it both sides. That probably won't happen anymore
The Armenians, too, and even Lukashenko tried to play both sides, get cozy with the West. They are probably/definitely not going to do that again.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Foreign army in this context is just using a treaty you signed with an ally to request assistance. It’s as “foreign” as any NATO country’s army to another.
It'd be very strange if the French government asks Germany or Nato to quell the gilet-jaunes demo, wouldn't it?
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe you can help me here. My reading of the situation is that it was an attempted revolution against a dictator after he made a devastating unilateral decision to raise prices for a critical fuel. Am I missing something?
The raise of fuel prices was an immediate cause but it probably was long burning dissatisfaction with the economic hardships of the masses vs. prosperous kleptocratic elite. On the other hand it seems that the economy of Kazakhstan was one of the best among other stans. It is possible that prolonged covid restrictions also played the role.
No no no, it's all the war between US and Russia, people are just dust, they can only be manipulated! /s
(this is what every russian bot is saying)
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#27It seems noteworthy that Kazakhstan represents ~22% of Bitcoins hashrate (~45 TWh/year of electricity), at the same time as people are out in the streets rioting over the price of heating their homes.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's very weird to see the President argue 'foreign interests' spark the unrest, and then promptly invites a foreign army to quell it. Who's falling for that?
Foreign army in this context is just using a treaty you signed with an ally to request assistance. It’s as “foreign” as any NATO country’s army to another.
Except that NATO countries are not run by tzars in their 70-ies whose only hope is to die quietly in bed, surrounded by elite killers.
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#29I traveled many post-Soviet countries in the past years with my old camping car. My personal impressions in Kazakhstan were frightening. A deeply corrupt state, much worse than Russia. Aggressive armed bandits in police uniform tried to rob me several times. Kazakhstan is true mafia state where every part of the regime tries to enrich itself at the expanse of the people. In contrast to the rich oil elite there are th…
In the case of Azerbaijan, my understanding is that western European companies have just blanket bribed more or less every official they interact with up and down the Azeri government for the past few decades, to help them set up contracts that are grossly unfair to the Azeri public. Oil money that does go to Azerbaijan gets embezzled away, with those companies’ knowledge and implicit support.
I haven’t heard of anyone from e.g. BP getting punished for this, though I believe the British government asked it to investigate itself a few times.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Foreign army in this context is just using a treaty you signed with an ally to request assistance. It’s as “foreign” as any NATO country’s army to another.
It'd be very strange if the French government asks Germany or Nato to quell the gilet-jaunes demo, wouldn't it?
And yet intelligence agencies routinely spy for one another to get around those pesky warrant and probable cause requirements.