Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

Post by heavyset_go » Thu, Dec 30, 2021, 11:48 PM UTC

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> I see this all the time but then if you want to buy a new Tesla you have to wait a year. And that is due to demand. High demand doesn't mean the product is quality. Fyre festival sold thousands of tickets, even though it was fundamentally fraudulent. Video games are another perfect example: fans pre-order AAA titles that studios fail to deliver over and over and over again. Demand just means that people like the id…

Unlike the Fyre festival or an unfinished video game, Teslas already exist. You can see them driving down the road. Maybe you know someone who owns one and can ask them about it. Even if you don't, there's no shortage of reviews and videos of actual Teslas made by people who don't work for Tesla. By this point, you should know more or less what you're getting if you buy a Tesla, so that demand is presumably based on…

Post by sonofhans » Thu, Dec 30, 2021, 11:57 PM UTC

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and then later in their life they become impossible to fix at a reasonable price. somebody might sell you a mostly okay running older BMW 7 series for $4500, fully loaded with all the options but take a look at the parts and labor cost to fix something on it.... you might as well throw away the whole car.

While I've driven them (on a track) and appreciate the attraction of the German sports luxury brands, what I've always heard is that if you want to keep them past their warranty period you need a trusted independent foreign car mechanic--and it can still get pricey. Just has never been a sufficient priority for me.

Post by danans » Thu, Dec 30, 2021, 11:59 PM UTC

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If you own a Tesla you're almost by definition rich. If everyone in your social circle is driving expensive/new cars, you're all rich. Not to go all "check your privileges", but seriously..

A model 3 MSRP is $45k. A used one can be found for even less than that. Check your local car prices, b/c that is not really that expensive and certainly nowhere close to "rich" territory. A fully loaded F-150 is $78k. I would be shocked if you also said anyone driving an F-150 is by definition rich. Also, a cheap used car may be drastically less expensive to buy for most people, but they will ultimately pay thousand…

Post by walrus01 » Fri, Dec 31, 2021, 12:01 AM UTC

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That's pure survivorship bias. Everyone else who encounters major problems with their Tesla gets rid of it, and therefore wouldn't choose to buy their Tesla again because they don't have it anymore. People who do have one new enough not to have a major defect will overlook small issues with the build quality and other complaints that people have about Tesla, because they've bought into a luxury and lifestyle brand. W…

Why wouldn't that apply to every car brand?

Post by gambiting » Fri, Dec 31, 2021, 12:01 AM UTC

bananabreakfast wrote: post #112

matsemann wrote: post #62

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If you own a Tesla you're almost by definition rich. If everyone in your social circle is driving expensive/new cars, you're all rich. Not to go all "check your privileges", but seriously..

A model 3 MSRP is $45k. A used one can be found for even less than that. Check your local car prices, b/c that is not really that expensive and certainly nowhere close to "rich" territory. A fully loaded F-150 is $78k. I would be shocked if you also said anyone driving an F-150 is by definition rich. Also, a cheap used car may be drastically less expensive to buy for most people, but they will ultimately pay thousand…