Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

theverge.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

21–30 of 287 posts

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

#21

Post by woodruffw »

LanceJones wrote: post #10
walrus01 wrote: post #4

see also: Tesla ranks almost dead last on Consumer Reports reliability list https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/Tesla-ranks-almost-dead-... https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/19/tesla-model-s-no-longer-reco... I hope this doesn't come across as excessively smug but I think my life, level of stress and personal finances are measurably improved by owning something that is closer to a $9000 Toyota Corolla and spending money o…

They also ranks first in customer satisfaction survey -- 4 years running: https://thedriven.io/2021/11/15/tesla-dominate-top-10-most-s...

Consumers tend to rate higher satisfactions with "luxury" goods (i.e., goods at premium prices, regardless of material quality or value) than they do with non-luxury goods. It occurs to me that that bias affects Tesla's reception as well.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

#22

Post by walrus01 »

m-ee wrote: post #7
etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #3

It doesn't seem like the rear view camera problem is that much of a safety issue, thoughts? The front trunk flying open while driving seems highly undesirable though.

Rear view cameras are a required safety feature in the US now. As SUVs proliferated and pillars got thicker for crash safety cases of parents running over their toddlers increased.

as predicted in the early 1990s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI_Jl5WFQkA

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

#23

Post by serf »

slg wrote: post #19

Just a reminder that cars are recalled all the time and the only reason you are seeing this article is because it is Tesla. Any other manufacturer and this would be a non-story especially on HN. Did Ford recalling 185k vehicles a couple days ago make the front page of HN? How about Toyota recalling 200k vehicles also a couple days ago?[2] Maybe Honda recalling 725k vehicles a month ago?[3] EDIT: Lots of people are ta…

just a reminder that product recalls (especially vehicles) are discussed all the time on HN [0], and Tesla isn't somehow special for being mentioned here.

[0]: https://hn.algolia.com/?q=recall

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

#24

Post by walrus01 »

kube-system wrote: post #16
LanceJones wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They also ranks first in customer satisfaction survey -- 4 years running: https://thedriven.io/2021/11/15/tesla-dominate-top-10-most-s...

This pattern is more of the norm than not for expensive high-tech cars. Rich people like nice stuff and are willing to pay maintenance and repair bills.

and then later in their life they become impossible to fix at a reasonable price.

somebody might sell you a mostly okay running older BMW 7 series for $4500, fully loaded with all the options but take a look at the parts and labor cost to fix something on it.... you might as well throw away the whole car.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

#25

Post by lillecarl »

slg wrote: post #19

Just a reminder that cars are recalled all the time and the only reason you are seeing this article is because it is Tesla. Any other manufacturer and this would be a non-story especially on HN. Did Ford recalling 185k vehicles a couple days ago make the front page of HN? How about Toyota recalling 200k vehicles also a couple days ago?[2] Maybe Honda recalling 725k vehicles a month ago?[3] EDIT: Lots of people are ta…

There's more to the story. Ford, Toyota and Honda makes significantly more cars and models than Tesla.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

#26

Post by LanceJones »

kube-system wrote: post #16
LanceJones wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They also ranks first in customer satisfaction survey -- 4 years running: https://thedriven.io/2021/11/15/tesla-dominate-top-10-most-s...

This pattern is more of the norm than not for expensive high-tech cars. Rich people like nice stuff and are willing to pay maintenance and repair bills.

Since you're making broad, sweeping generalizations, I can play. There are 7 people in my social circle who are Tesla owners but not fiercely loyal. They are not rich. And none of them have experienced more than minor issues in their ownership.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

#27

Post by antattack »

etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #3

It doesn't seem like the rear view camera problem is that much of a safety issue, thoughts? The front trunk flying open while driving seems highly undesirable though.

Tesla's have limited rear-view visibility due to aerodynamic shape. Not a big problem, but once you get used to backing out while looking at HD screen, lack of it is quite a hindrance.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

#28

Post by slg »

serf wrote: post #23
slg wrote: post #19

Just a reminder that cars are recalled all the time and the only reason you are seeing this article is because it is Tesla. Any other manufacturer and this would be a non-story especially on HN. Did Ford recalling 185k vehicles a couple days ago make the front page of HN? How about Toyota recalling 200k vehicles also a couple days ago?[2] Maybe Honda recalling 725k vehicles a month ago?[3] EDIT: Lots of people are ta…

just a reminder that product recalls (especially vehicles) are discussed all the time on HN [0], and Tesla isn't somehow special for being mentioned here. [0]: https://hn.algolia.com/?q=recall

None of the recalls I pointed to were discussed here. Here is one example of searching for another manufacturer.[1] Three articles including a pair of duplicates. The other article is 12 years old. They seemingly combined to receive 2 upvotes and 0 comments. Meanwhile this article already has over 50 upvotes in an hour with 25+ comments. We can't pretend that this community treats all of these issues the same regardless of manufacturer.

[1] - https://hn.algolia.com/?q=recall+honda

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

#29

Post by karatinversion »

coryrc wrote: post #17
m-ee wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rear view cameras are a required safety feature in the US now. As SUVs proliferated and pillars got thicker for crash safety cases of parents running over their toddlers increased.

Quoted post unavailable.

Those generally aren’t the places where the SUVs are being reversed.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

#30

Post by noah_buddy »

slg wrote: post #19

Just a reminder that cars are recalled all the time and the only reason you are seeing this article is because it is Tesla. Any other manufacturer and this would be a non-story especially on HN. Did Ford recalling 185k vehicles a couple days ago make the front page of HN? How about Toyota recalling 200k vehicles also a couple days ago?[2] Maybe Honda recalling 725k vehicles a month ago?[3] EDIT: Lots of people are ta…

I disagree that those headlines are even nearly so newsworthy! This Tesla recall is only 20k less than all that they sold in 2020. Ford recalling 200k cars is only 5% of what they sold in that same year.

This is a relatively large proportion of all Tesla's on the road.

Post reply on HN