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Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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I'm not sure if monkeys experience revenge the way humans do. As one of the comments mentioned in the article, it's probably just a survival instinct.

Most animals are capable of revenge. Story: A family in Palestine were doing a routine cleaning of the house. They had a snake nest in the house and it was no pet snake. So to clean better they put the nest and eggs in a different corner. The snake came back looking for the nest and could not find it. It looked around with no luck. It went to the family water vase (because there was no piped water supply) and spit in…

I'd be surprised if snakes have the capacity for that kind of reasoning.

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> Langoor monkeys are a fearsome force in India and not to be messed with. I thought langoors were more friendly towards humans compared to macaques?

As a general rule, animals never attack first. When humans encroach the traditional lands of the animals there are conflicts waiting to happen. Monkeys are smart and usually don’t bother humans, unless it’s a matter of food or threat to their group. Edit: I'm surprised at the downvotes, isn't human-wildlife conflict in Indian forests well documented?

This is some nature is benign nonsense. Plenty of animals will attack humans without provocation. E.g., mosquitoes are animals. More seriously, stray dogs etc. attack children quite regularly in India. Man eating tigers etc are documented to track down and hunt humans.

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I would expect most animals that still exist to at the very least not be a major threat to humans - because if they are, they tend to cease to exist.

These monkeys are not fatally dangerous if that's what GP is saying. But they cause heavy and serious nuisance. Where I live, these monkeys invade gradens, agricultural fields, house rooftops at least 4-5 times a month. The locals drop anything they do, and chase away these monkeys. When chased by an adult male human, these monkeys don't fight back and are easily frightened. They don't mess with adult males or groups…

I understand but aren't we to be blame for this? We took their home, we took their shelter and what can they do? And they don't have enough wisdom to know who they should harm and who they shouldn't.

And many of monkey i know here are too friendly but yea after they starts to live with humans they learn to hoodwink people because many thieves are known to use monkey to snatch valuables from tourist by providing bananas as incentives to them.

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Baboons have been know to kidnapping puppies too. They live with the troop and offer protection as warning/guard dogs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2lSZPTa3ho

A professional baboon researcher disagrees with the conclusions of that youtube clip:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/animals-and-us/20150...

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Chimps, no, but a small 20kg macaque, yeah definitely. You could yeet such a small animal, for lack of a better word. That's why they band together :)

For a good idea of what chimpanzee musculature looks like, do a search for "hairless chimpanzee." Here's one: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-36924808

I certainly agree, you wouldn't have much of a chance against a chimp one on one without weapons. It's just that the article isn't about chimps, but about much smaller macaques.

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The Vedas are supposedly that old

Yes, but (without being a scholar of religion) I had always assumed that Hinduism was far older than its oldest surviving texts, just as Judaism, in some form, is older than whatever year we date the Torah to.

My read is that it's the other way around. i.e. what one could reasonably call Judaism is a good deal younger than the Torah, Hinduism a good deal younger than the Vedas. There are of course traditions within the religions that go back to those writings and further, but take that to its extreme and they all presumably stem from some ur-religion.

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> villagers began attempting to rescue the dogs on their own. But some of them have found themselves subject to the monkeys' retaliation, and some have even injured themselves or fallen from buildings how strong are these monkeys? I mean I know monkeys are strong but can they really ambush a human, and push them over a ledge? can they kidnap a human, carry them upward and drop them over a ledge?

> how strong are these monkeys? One, or even two monkeys won't usually attack or even threaten an adult male. Although, a monkey will easily beat an adult male human. They are like 2-3.5 ft, and weigh at least 20 kg. They are also sneaky. You will be bitten and scratched badly, and will be fighting for life. One monkey cannot lift a human. I have lived in a monkey infested area for decades, and I have never even hear…

> at least 80 kg

Are you sure? That's on the big side for a human.

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Weirdly specific.

It’s something primates do to human captors.

It's also something that humans notably do when fighting each other. Thumb in the eye is an instinctually intuitive move.

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As a general rule that’s true but useless. Humans are relatively large animals that most creatures don’t want to mess with. But a hippo for example isn’t discouraged by this. Also the deadliest North American wildlife is the deer almost entirely because they’re jumping in front of cars.

> Also the deadliest North American wildlife is the deer Actually, the deadliest North American wildlife is the mosquito.

Are they particularly deadly in NA? I’m not downplaying the disease spread by mosquitoes, but I would have imagined that they’re significantly deadlier in less developed continents and that then acesss and quality of healthcare would make them less so in North America.

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In Singapore last week, an older man was taking a morning walk in a park and spotted a pack of otters on the path ahead of him. At the same time, a jogger ran through the pack and startled them (some reports said trampled one of the pups). The reaction of the pack was to attack the nearest human - the older man: As the runner ran past Spencer and disappeared into the distance, the otters instead set their sights on S…

Otters are relatives of weasels and badgers and like their relatives they are very aggressive.
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