Once I was walking in the street in the north of India and sudenly I was surrounded by a pack of dogs and monkeys, they started to fight, with me in the middle... a dog was nervous and bit me as well. I went straight to the hospital to get the rabbies vaccine... apart from that I have very fond memories of India!
Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town
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Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town
#192If you are in doubt about this being revenge, because you think revenge is exclusively a human behavior, then have a look at the Gombe Chimpanzee War [0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War
Chimpanzees are more closely related to humans than they are to monkeys.
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#193> villagers began attempting to rescue the dogs on their own. But some of them have found themselves subject to the monkeys' retaliation, and some have even injured themselves or fallen from buildings how strong are these monkeys? I mean I know monkeys are strong but can they really ambush a human, and push them over a ledge? can they kidnap a human, carry them upward and drop them over a ledge?
With small children, sure.
With bigger humans, they don't need to throw them. It may be enough to drive them strategically by screaming and biting in a big enough group and with an unprepared enough victim.
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
well, the anxious animals got the baby back.. I am certain the monkeys did not ask nicely! but let's look at it differently, the monkey pack acted together right away for the safety of the smallest one.. did they hurt the humans? the story does not say that; a more aggressive animal would certainly hurt a human right away for the sake of a small one.. but those animals have been hunted and removed.. +1 monkeys from m…
The story does say: Now, villagers reported that the monkeys are targeting small children which has created a panic within the village.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the San Francisco Bay Area, our native California Mule deer that commonly roam suburban streets, weigh in between 100 and 300lbs.
White tailed deer on the east coast and midwest are in a similar size range.
And the little Key deer down in Florida, which are the smallest of the North American Whitetails, are typically about 40-50 pounds. One night when I was down in the Florida Keys, typing away at my laptop on the beech in the dark, I felt something cold and wet touch my elbow. I looked over my shoulder, and a little Key deer was sniffing my arm. I jumped a bit, and then the deer jumped a bit, and with one last curious look, she ran off into the dark. Very cute little thing.
Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town
#196I grew up and studied in a University town in Central India, not far from Majalgaon FTA. I've personally witnessed the rivalry of the monkeys and the pariah dogs. In one particular instance a youngish dog was chasing the monkeys and wouldn't let them get on the ground. The leader of the monkey gang made a sudden move, swooped down and carried the dog pup on the tree and just dropped it from there. The pup survived an…
Someone could crowdsource a documentary and launch their career with the money it would raise...
https://youtu.be/nEjkibv6KFQ
Natgeo already has a full season on Monkey thieves.
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> Langoor monkeys are a fearsome force in India and not to be messed with. I thought langoors were more friendly towards humans compared to macaques?
I would expect most animals that still exist to at the very least not be a major threat to humans - because if they are, they tend to cease to exist.
Depends on your definition of major. Mosquitoes still exist despite nearly a million people dying from the diseases they transmit each yaar.
Stray dogs in India are responsible for tens of thousands rabies deaths annually. Yet it's illegal to cull them.
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
We are not stronger than chimps. Our arms certainly aren't.
Chimps, no, but a small 20kg macaque, yeah definitely. You could yeet such a small animal, for lack of a better word. That's why they band together :)
For a good idea of what chimpanzee musculature looks like, do a search for "hairless chimpanzee." Here's one:
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#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
well, the anxious animals got the baby back.. I am certain the monkeys did not ask nicely! but let's look at it differently, the monkey pack acted together right away for the safety of the smallest one.. did they hurt the humans? the story does not say that; a more aggressive animal would certainly hurt a human right away for the sake of a small one.. but those animals have been hunted and removed.. +1 monkeys from m…
But how do other monkeys know they participate to a legitimate cause? They don’t have language to express reason, facts, inferences or values. Which strikes me, because they really did “ask nicely”, not attacking humans and behaving in a measured way. Where I’m coming from is: Is language necessary? Human crowds are most often fair (doing a revolution is quite fair, even if individual events are a bit… messy. But cro…
> But how do other monkeys know they participate to a legitimate cause?
The legitimacy of a cause depends on your value system, and who is to say what sort of value system the monkeys have. Perhaps their value system places "stick up for other monkeys" before other considerations like impartial assessment of guilt or blame.
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What do you mean same is used for cattle?
He means “cull” is a term we use for killing cattle.
That's not precisely correct. With respect to cattle or any other domesticated ungulates, "culling" means removing from the herd. That might occasionally be slaughter, but usually means selling the animal. Of course the new owner might buy the animal in order to slaughter it, but we can't assume that.