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Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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> villagers began attempting to rescue the dogs on their own. But some of them have found themselves subject to the monkeys' retaliation, and some have even injured themselves or fallen from buildings how strong are these monkeys? I mean I know monkeys are strong but can they really ambush a human, and push them over a ledge? can they kidnap a human, carry them upward and drop them over a ledge?

> how strong are these monkeys?

I believe the right question is, how intelligent and distempered are these monkeys?

Intelligence > brawn

Strength is mostly immaterial once I (as a hypothetical monkey) understand that I can use my agility to rip your eyeballs from their sockets, which then effectively removes your ability to pose a threat to me.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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I’d like to see these Monkeys try and capture my 54kg (129lb) Doberman. He is ridiculously strong, has broken a few collars and is impossible to move if he decides to stay put.

Monkeys are ridiculously strong and vicious when they go to war in groups.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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I’d like to see these Monkeys try and capture my 54kg (129lb) Doberman. He is ridiculously strong, has broken a few collars and is impossible to move if he decides to stay put.

I don’t think Indian villagers would be thrilled by your dog if they had to feed it

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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> villagers began attempting to rescue the dogs on their own. But some of them have found themselves subject to the monkeys' retaliation, and some have even injured themselves or fallen from buildings how strong are these monkeys? I mean I know monkeys are strong but can they really ambush a human, and push them over a ledge? can they kidnap a human, carry them upward and drop them over a ledge?

Have You ever tried to pull Yourself up to the top of a tree with 1 arm in 30 seconds?

Chimp muscles are stronger than ours but we are often stronger than them in absolute terms because we are bigger (more muscle mass).

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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> villagers began attempting to rescue the dogs on their own. But some of them have found themselves subject to the monkeys' retaliation, and some have even injured themselves or fallen from buildings how strong are these monkeys? I mean I know monkeys are strong but can they really ambush a human, and push them over a ledge? can they kidnap a human, carry them upward and drop them over a ledge?

All wild animals are stronger than they look. Humans are comparatively weak.. most of us can’t fight a deer. Monkeys are intelligent. They are aware of leverage and potential danger. They jump on people, chase, scratch and bite them

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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If an instinct or circuitry around revenge can exist in monkeys, I wonder if humans can ever fully escape that tendency, or if it is just built into who we are.

"Circuitry around revenge" is probably a beneficial social "skill" for facilitating group cooperation, there's all kinds of game theory (e.g. basic things like iterated prisoners dilemma tit-for-tat strategy) that suggests that knowing about the presence of revenge acts and a likelihood of punishing defection (even at extra 'expense' for the punisher) deters defection, and allows to reach a better shared result.

I.e. if we simply could abandon that at the flip of a switch, I'm not sure if we should, it's plausible that it would make all kinds of abuse less risky and thus more attractive, increasing the abuse happening in the world.

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