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Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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Post by ghostbrainalpha »

lolive wrote: post #683
Grustaf wrote: post #674

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What is even the purpose of showing these tiny islands in a larger size? It's not like they are the backbone of China's economy or that they prove that the party still has the mandate of heaven.

To oversize the problem related to those islands. And make the people agree upon a common ennemy. [USA did a similar oversizing trick with WMD and the belief that Irak was the 4th biggest army in the world] [calm down, USA patriots, all the countries do use the same tricks.]

Did Iraq NOT have the 4th biggest army in the world?

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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Post by dang »

lastbitwritten wrote: post #584
justicezyx wrote: post #521

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I am not sure what do you want to say. > Lets meet as friends in Tiananmen square - you wear a t-shirt saying ‘what happened here in 1989?’ I think the Tankman incident is a silver light in the whole event, i.e., the individual stand against the tank, and the tank decide to go different route; and eventually the confrontation was dissolved by bystanders. If you emphasize the confrontation, you'll use the t-shirt you…

I guess as long as the tank tread on your neck is Chinese - it’s not a problem. Better to be called a facist in democracy than to live in the authoritarian dictatorship you provide unceasing support to. I pity the people of China, who don’t have a say in their government, and have no choice but to tow the party line, What’s your excuse?

Please stop posting flamewar comments to HN. It's not what this site is for, and we ban such accounts.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by 908B64B197 »

sangnoir wrote: post #515
908B64B197 wrote: post #369

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The problem is, it's not a numbers game: quality matters a lot. Importing massive amounts of unskilled labor only depresses wages and, combined with NIMBY, creates a massive housing bubble thanks to artificial shortages. In Australia's case, it also suffers from a disproportionate brain drain of highly educated professionals since local firms simply won't compete for talent.

I hope you're not suggesting that Australia is getting low-quality immigrants. Unlike the US, Australia has a points-based immigration system where you have to meet specific, standardized criteria, which IMO is more objective than the US process. I don't know what guidance State Department staffers follow when determining who gets a visa, but the process is more opaque, and I suspect more subjective. edit: I think th…

> I don't know what guidance State Department staffers follow when determining who gets a visa, but the process is more opaque, and I suspect more subjective.

Except for categories where there's an extremely high burden of proof for extraordinary abilities, it's simply someone's ability to get a job no American is qualified to take (and be so in demand that it commands a salary in the top percentiles for the profession).

So the market takes care of the selection.

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Post by 908B64B197 »

arcticbull wrote: post #648
908B64B197 wrote: post #483

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It's interesting that the narrative is that when people move to Canada, it's because they have a deep desire of becoming Canadian, and according to the current administration deserve it even more than the folks who built the country [0], but when it's people coming to the US it's simply for higher pay and not because they want to make America their home. Meanwhile, there are now universities where 85% of the graduati…

> It's interesting that the narrative is that when people move to Canada, it's because they have a deep desire of becoming Canadian. That’s fine on an individual level but that doesn’t mean they want to merge their home countries into Canada! Someone from Italy may move to the US but that is totally disjoint from them wanting to make Italy the 51st state. If they retain a strong positive association with the attribut…

> The number of people who desired to stay after college went up, but visa issuance was suspended so they were precluded

What I posted is people who moved to the US, not people that had a desire to move.

> Meanwhile... [1]

It's interesting, because in these stories Canada is never the first choice. Seems like every story starts with someone being unable to qualify for US immigration using Canada as a back up plan.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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Post by stale2002 »

simonh wrote: post #696
stale2002 wrote: post #479

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So then yes it was done on the user's device. You just agree with the complaint that yes apple was scanning people's devices in certain circumstances.

As long as we are clear about the circumstances, and we're not misrepresenting the situation so it appears it can scan photos not being uploaded to iCloud, sure. The intention of the implementation is that if a user asks Apple to upload CSAM to iCloud, that Apple has the ability to check it and stop that CSAM landing on their servers. They don't want it there, and feel they have a right to check for it in advance so…

> and feel they have a right to check for it in advance

Ok, and thats the problem. Because the scan is on the user's device. No, I don't think they should have the right to use someone else's device, that the individual owns, like that.

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Post by vanusa »

allenleee wrote: post #622
ipv6ipv4 wrote: post #50

Daring Fireball [1] has another passage from the article which is illuminating with regards to any promises Apple makes about how it will resist governmental pressure to compromise its products, vis-à-vis Apple's CSAM scanning tool. "Sometime in 2014 or early 2015, China’s State Bureau of Surveying and Mapping told members of the Apple Maps team to make the Diaoyu Islands, the objects of a long-running territorial di…

Actually, the Diaoyu Islands belong to Taiwan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senkaku_Islands

Actually, that article describes the islands' status as disputed.

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Post by lastbitwritten »

star-trek-fleet wrote: post #693
lastbitwritten wrote: post #584

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I guess as long as the tank tread on your neck is Chinese - it’s not a problem. Better to be called a facist in democracy than to live in the authoritarian dictatorship you provide unceasing support to. I pity the people of China, who don’t have a say in their government, and have no choice but to tow the party line, What’s your excuse?

> I guess as long as the tank tread on your neck is Chinese - it’s not a problem. Are you implying mg Chinese identity will be a problem in US then? Are you threatening or are you joking? > Better to be called a facist in democracy than to live in the authoritarian dictatorship you provide unceasing support to. I provide uneasy support to China and CCP? No! I uneasily support the mutual understanding between China an…

To not oppose dictatorship is to embrace it.

Sic semper tyrannis, and their bootlicking lapdogs too.

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Post by lolive »

ghostbrainalpha wrote: post #711
lolive wrote: post #683

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To oversize the problem related to those islands. And make the people agree upon a common ennemy. [USA did a similar oversizing trick with WMD and the belief that Irak was the 4th biggest army in the world] [calm down, USA patriots, all the countries do use the same tricks.]

Did Iraq NOT have the 4th biggest army in the world?

In the 80s yes.

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Post by cdot2 »

Eelongate wrote: post #267
bostonsre wrote: post #45

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Which agricultural revolution? If the earliest, sure more food is good, but having to fear being wiped off the earth from random raiders or armies kind of sucks.

> Which agricultural revolution? Don't take it too literally, his comment is a modified quote from the unabomber's manifesto, which opens with, "The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race." It's something of a meme to swap out "industrial" with something else, usually with a tongue-in-cheek intent.

Someone got my reference

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Post by tooltalk »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #667
tooltalk wrote: post #79

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Samsung is the largest smartphone-maker in the world (and has been for much of past 10+ years). They ceased all their phone-making operation in China and left for Vietnam a couple of years ago (also most recently closed their last display, shipbuilding operation) -- along with 200+ suppliers, plus 20+ new domestic suppliers created there along the way. Now, most of Samsung phones are made in Vietnam and their output…

>I just don't buy the argument that China as the world's electronic supply-chain can't be replaced. // Of course it can. Manufacturing moved there over the last 30 years for the low regulation and particularly the low wages that keep manufacturing cheap and allow the bosses/owners to make more money. So, all you need is to accept less profit, which the controlling powers won't do without keeping wages/costs down to s…

Sure, nobody is expecting an overnight miracle, but it's certainly not going to take anywhere close to a decade either, as Tim Apple and others American executives have deliberately misled all these years.

And no, the US isn't interested in bringing the whole supply-chain back home, it just doesn't want a politically or economically unreliable partner.

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