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I compared the same area in apple vs google maps, the islands don't even show up in google unless you zoom way in. You sure about this?
Google Maps is blocked in China, I think.
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The CSAM controversy is dumb. The real “folding under pressure” example is the neutering of iMessage. Notice the FBI doesn’t whine about iPhones anymore.
The irony is the CSAM measures they were doing may have enabled them to encrypt the iCloud iMessage backups since they’d still be able to help the feds with CSAM. Instead everything remains unencrypted.
Frankly it makes me doubt the veracity of some of the activists who go off the handle when these types of controversies pop up.
Literally every online storage service is analyzing user content for various reasons, but I don’t see any hue and cry over it. The Apple approach was a novel take imo.
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I am not sure what do you want to say. > Lets meet as friends in Tiananmen square - you wear a t-shirt saying ‘what happened here in 1989?’ I think the Tankman incident is a silver light in the whole event, i.e., the individual stand against the tank, and the tank decide to go different route; and eventually the confrontation was dissolved by bystanders. If you emphasize the confrontation, you'll use the t-shirt you…
I guess as long as the tank tread on your neck is Chinese - it’s not a problem. Better to be called a facist in democracy than to live in the authoritarian dictatorship you provide unceasing support to. I pity the people of China, who don’t have a say in their government, and have no choice but to tow the party line, What’s your excuse?
Are you implying mg Chinese identity will be a problem in US then? Are you threatening or are you joking?
> Better to be called a facist in democracy than to live in the authoritarian dictatorship you provide unceasing support to.
I provide uneasy support to China and CCP? No! I uneasily support the mutual understanding between China and US. And for now, the part that lacks understanding is US, and American people continue to allow themselves to be fooled by the mainstream media. While at the same time most of them do not even trust them anyway. It was just that the mental conditioning has been started since early 1900s since the rise of Communism that the distrust on MSM does not translate to critical thinking in the people's mind.
Yes for sure. My support for anything is uneasy. And only on a case by case and rational way.
I see the danger of blindfolded mindset to trigger the hot war between 2 nuclear super power. Then I act accordingly. Is that a support to China? Sure! It's a support to China just like Bill Clinton OKed China's joining to WTO. It's a support like Donald Trump squandered US supremacy and disunited the US allies. That does not make me or bill Clinton or Trump less American.
> I pity the people of China
Me too.
I support Chinese people's development. I am planning a nonprofit for my home province's education. We'll be helping youth coming to US and learn the history and culture in the American, so they have a more independent attitude towards government and power.
Like I said, changes take time, I want to contribute to the cultivation of western values in Chinese youth.
> who don’t have a say in their government
No no no...
This current iteration of Chinese government was created after the people overthrow the US backed KMT. They are going to overthrow CCP if CCP starts to behaving poorly. Look at the growing civil dissident during the haydays of rampant capitalism when people's lives are put on danger for the profits of the few.
> and have no choice but to tow the party line
They don't have choices in some basic politicians rules. Like CCP has to be the leader, and China had to be on socialism.
So what. American have to be on a 2 party system, and US has to be on a capitalist system. Is that so different?
> What’s your excuse?
I have no excuse. All I said is rational based on my own observation.
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We’ll, what Apple built with CSAM checking is a tool that checks images uploaded to their servers, and only those images, against a digital fingerprint. There is no novel technology in this. It’s very basic stuff doing a specific thing. It’s in no way a meaningful stepping stone to doing anything else. If you’re against Apple scanning images uploaded to iCloud for CSAM that’s fine, say that, but it’s no stepping ston…
> We’ll, what Apple built with CSAM checking is a tool that checks images uploaded to their servers, and only those images, against a digital fingerprint. No, that's not how any of it works. Apple scans and matches your photos, on your device, against a list of hashes that represent government provided images that Apple has no knowledge of. The stipulation that images are only scanned when uploaded to Apple servers i…
The scan is performed in the code that does the uploading, so it is a hard limitation of the implementation. They can't push a button to make it scan other photos, they would have to make significant code changes. Not hard code changes, none of this is hard or a major technology achievement, but the current implementation does one specific thing and that thing only.
On the legal requirement, huh, it looks like you're quite right. They are choosing to scan for CSMA loaded into their service. Good for them.
There's nothing to stop the Chinese government requiring Apple to make whatever code changes they require anyway.
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The irony is the CSAM measures they were doing may have enabled them to encrypt the iCloud iMessage backups since they’d still be able to help the feds with CSAM. Instead everything remains unencrypted.
Agreed. Frankly it makes me doubt the veracity of some of the activists who go off the handle when these types of controversies pop up. Literally every online storage service is analyzing user content for various reasons, but I don’t see any hue and cry over it. The Apple approach was a novel take imo.
Another recent one was the Covid bluetooth exposure notifications that were cleverly designed in a way that preserved privacy. People on HN with no understanding of how it worked freaked out and as a result instead of that smart privacy preserving approach governments just bought location data or implemented other centralized information systems that are much worse for privacy.
If I worked in policy it'd be hard not to roll eyes at the privacy people and just ignore them - which is definitely not what we want.
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It was only when upload to iCloud was enabled which is functionally equivalent to a check on server (and enables future roll out of encrypted content on the sever). The CSAM issue was mostly misunderstood by HN imo.
So then yes it was done on the user's device. You just agree with the complaint that yes apple was scanning people's devices in certain circumstances.
The intention of the implementation is that if a user asks Apple to upload CSAM to iCloud, that Apple has the ability to check it and stop that CSAM landing on their servers. They don't want it there, and feel they have a right to check for it in advance so their servers are clear of CSAM and it stays on the user's phone. Frankly I think that's a reasonable attitude to take to CSAM.
the top comments talking about maps, it's absolutely insane 'The agreement included a pledge from Apple to help Chinese manufacturers develop "the most advanced manufacturing technologies," "support the training of high-quality Chinese talents," use more components from Chinese suppliers, sign deals with Chinese software firms, collaborate with research in Chinese universities, and directly invest in Chinese tech com…
$275 billion in spending over a period of five years sounds like a lot, but I think you might be underestimating how much Apple would spend in China “naturally”. When's the last CEO I heard making these same promises to America? On Apple’s spending in the USA: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/26/business/apple-spending-u... “The company said its overall spending would reach $430 billion in the United States over the n…
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What is even the purpose of showing these tiny islands in a larger size? It's not like they are the backbone of China's economy or that they prove that the party still has the mandate of heaven.
To oversize the problem related to those islands. And make the people agree upon a common ennemy. [USA did a similar oversizing trick with WMD and the belief that Irak was the 4th biggest army in the world] [calm down, USA patriots, all the countries do use the same tricks.]
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That's fine. China SHOULD NOT have the option to tell American companies that they need to not have free speech in the rest of the world because China doesn't have free speech. If that starts happening - American companies need to be FORCED to exit the Chinese market and keep free speech. Otherwise, it's a simple P&L calculation - and China will win. Apple is not going to lose 20% of their global sales because they b…
"China SHOULD NOT have the option to tell American companies that they need to not have free speech in the rest of the world because China doesn't have free speech." So again, that 'feels right' - but this is not a 'moral' issue, it's a 'power' issue. That it's 'unreasonable' that China should be able to censor outside of it's borders is kind of besides the point. What matters is the materiality of their power. In Ch…
I feel deja vu from the beginning of WWII - Germany growing and gaining power and becoming more aggressive while nearby countries (and further-away ones - US+CA+AU) are ignoring the threat, or trying to pacify them with small concessions and sacrifices...
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Not to completely defend gerrymandering but districts are also drawn "oddly" to help ensure minority representation within a system with absurd constraints. If there were more representatives districts would be more granular and localized but because representatives are capped at 435 you have this bizarre situation of needing to give opportunities for equal representation across populations that are spread across a c…
If someone appointed me as the czar of legislative voting, my way to resolve this and reduce the incentives to gerrymander while improving minority representation would be to replace single district voting with a vote-point system. If one candidate in a district gets 100,000 votes and another 85,000 votes, both would go to congress and each would get that many vote-points. Rather than number of representative votes,…