YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

Post by politician » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 2:50 PM UTC

giansegato wrote: post #79

bambax wrote: post #41

The problem is not the content of the video, crypto or not. The problem is not that YT moderates aggressively (it doesn't do enough IMHO) or even how it moderates. The problem is that there is no serious appeals process, and no third party oversight of moderation decisions. This is true for all the big platforms. How do we fix that, IDK, but probably at the government level.

It could be remunerated. Like: pay 100$ to have a human look at your case. You can appeal (and pay) up to 3 times. This would partially solve the scalability problem + provide partial disincentives for scammers and spammers. I would happily pay 100$ to recover my lost Google account. Of course this would in turn create the bad incentive of having Google not create good models. Ideally the law would require to cap pri…

Post by NavinF » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 2:51 PM UTC

jtbayly wrote: post #192

NavinF wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easy: Your extension looks at the HTTP status code and if it’s 404, query the distributed hash table for another copy of the video. Then replace the element on the page with a different one that plays bytes from your callback function (Media Source Extensions) just like WebTorrent. (Note: There are alternatives to YouTube that already use WebTorrent to make videos harder to delete, but their content is incredibly har…

But then you're relying on the IPFS version to accurately say which Youtube video URL it is equivalent to. I could upload any number of videos claiming to be the same as your video, right?

Post by questiondev » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 2:52 PM UTC

throwaway82931 wrote: post #28

It's terrifying that the punishments are so draconian (because one false move and you lose access to the entire Google account, and possibly become persona non-grata and lose the ability to create another one even in a company context), it's hard to understand what the rules are, the appeals process generally won't help, and even being a paying customer won't save you. It seems like best practice for any professional…

Post by kaetemi » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 2:52 PM UTC

gfaster wrote: post #203

acdha wrote: post #191

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People have tons of alternatives. The problem is that ad subsidies pay more than most viewers are willing to pay after generations of internet users have been conditioned to think of content as free.

From what I understand what YouTube does is super super difficult to do at scale as well as they do, I do not envy their competitors. Given that, I don't believe ever hoping for an actual competitor to pop up is reasonable, instead we should start thinking about how we can ensure fairness, inclusivity, and democracy(?) on what exists. I'm not sure what the best way to go about it is, but I know that advertiser and co…

Post by SpelingBeeChamp » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 2:55 PM UTC

bambax wrote: post #41

The problem is not the content of the video, crypto or not. The problem is not that YT moderates aggressively (it doesn't do enough IMHO) or even how it moderates. The problem is that there is no serious appeals process, and no third party oversight of moderation decisions. This is true for all the big platforms. How do we fix that, IDK, but probably at the government level.