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YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by throwaway82931 »

petters wrote: post #63
throwaway82931 wrote: post #28

It's terrifying that the punishments are so draconian (because one false move and you lose access to the entire Google account, and possibly become persona non-grata and lose the ability to create another one even in a company context), it's hard to understand what the rules are, the appeals process generally won't help, and even being a paying customer won't save you. It seems like best practice for any professional…

As far as I understood, the entire Google account was not suspended. Was that the case?

The user cannot log into their Google account. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29458794

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by Ygg2 »

cube00 wrote: post #56
throwaway82931 wrote: post #28

It's terrifying that the punishments are so draconian (because one false move and you lose access to the entire Google account, and possibly become persona non-grata and lose the ability to create another one even in a company context), it's hard to understand what the rules are, the appeals process generally won't help, and even being a paying customer won't save you. It seems like best practice for any professional…

I wouldn't mind if the appeals process was legitimate but it's clearly not. 15 minutes to say "nope, appeal denied" how much background research could that person (assuming there was a person) have done?

Appeals process is somewhere between Kafka's Process and 1984.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by majkinetor »

Its becoming obvious that people shouldn't keep their stuff online on places they have 0 control. Even google's data liberation can't be used to take your data once account is blocked - if they allowed me to just use this one service after the blockade for a limited amount of time, I wouldn't have any problems.

So it seeems that NextCloud and PeerTube should be must in this day and age... Mail seems most problematic but helpfully, you could easily keep local copy in mail clients.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by sodality2 »

johnday wrote: post #30
pepemon wrote: post #21

So you're pushing for DeFi and all things decentralized, but whining that the centralized service has enforced its power upon your content about decentralization there? Nice.

What do you mean but whining? I'm not DeFi fan (not by a long shot), but complaining about the practices of centralised services seems exactly in line with what a pro-DeFi person would do. There's no hypocrisy here.

I assume the hypocrisy is that OP is still using these services

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by giansegato »

bambax wrote: post #41

The problem is not the content of the video, crypto or not. The problem is not that YT moderates aggressively (it doesn't do enough IMHO) or even how it moderates. The problem is that there is no serious appeals process, and no third party oversight of moderation decisions. This is true for all the big platforms. How do we fix that, IDK, but probably at the government level.

It could be remunerated. Like: pay 100$ to have a human look at your case. You can appeal (and pay) up to 3 times. This would partially solve the scalability problem + provide partial disincentives for scammers and spammers. I would happily pay 100$ to recover my lost Google account. Of course this would in turn create the bad incentive of having Google not create good models. Ideally the law would require to cap prices somehow. Hard problem for sure.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by hdjjhhvvhga »

dncornholio wrote: post #62
cube00 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't foolproof. Account bans can fan out and ban known shadow accounts you also operate as well, perhaps if you have different mobile phone numbers on each that might give you a bit more of a fighting chance.

It's not foolproof, that's why I consider all those accounts expendable. I don't use them for anything important and I keep them spread. No phone numbers linked to any of the accounts. I'm sure Google can see a link between them, but I'm not too worried about that.

> No phone numbers linked to any of the accounts.

...on your devices.

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