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Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Google famously sucks at customer service, mostly because they've figured that they'd have to pay a moderation team more money than whatever they'll lose from the few and far between problem cases there might be. There is no fixing that without massive corporate reorganization, which won't be voluntary, and thus will take 10x the time with worse results. At this point this is just the Google way to do things, and mak…

The problem is their monopoly power over video distribution on the internet: disgruntled users have nowhere else to go. All alternatives are stifled by the monopoly.

People have tons of alternatives. The problem is that ad subsidies pay more than most viewers are willing to pay after generations of internet users have been conditioned to think of content as free.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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post #121

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How does a YouTube 404 turn in to a working link? You don't control what You Tube displays on their 404.

Easy: Your extension looks at the HTTP status code and if it’s 404, query the distributed hash table for another copy of the video. Then replace the element on the page with a different one that plays bytes from your callback function (Media Source Extensions) just like WebTorrent. (Note: There are alternatives to YouTube that already use WebTorrent to make videos harder to delete, but their content is incredibly har…

But then you're relying on the IPFS version to accurately say which Youtube video URL it is equivalent to. I could upload any number of videos claiming to be the same as your video, right?

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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I'm not sure why people are calling this satire. If you want to host a video, make it available through a URI, protect your ownership rights and then make sure it gets hosted for as long as possible, this is a way to do it.

The key is knowing enough about the technology to know that none of that works. IPFS doesn’t solve the storage or bandwidth problems people use YouTube to avoid, so you’re still going to need to pay for hosting, which could be done cheaper without the blockchain overhead. Similarly, an NFT doesn’t prevent everyone from accessing it so you can’t force people to pay for the cost of their access and it doesn’t protect y…

> [...] you’re still going to need to pay for hosting, which could be done cheaper without the blockchain overhead.

IPFS has no blockchain, and the overhead of transferring files is incredibly low thanks to lib-p2p.

> Similarly, an NFT doesn’t prevent everyone from accessing it so you can’t force people to pay for the cost of their access and it doesn’t protect your ownership — that’s done by copyright laws enforced by the government.

By itself it does not, coupled with other mechanisms, it can. Access control to personal files is very much removed from where I expect government to exercise their own control.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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It could be remunerated. Like: pay 100$ to have a human look at your case. You can appeal (and pay) up to 3 times. This would partially solve the scalability problem + provide partial disincentives for scammers and spammers. I would happily pay 100$ to recover my lost Google account. Of course this would in turn create the bad incentive of having Google not create good models. Ideally the law would require to cap pri…

Why is it my problem that a fair moderation process must be cost-effective for Google, et. al.? Edit: Google's profit margins aren't my problem. If they want to be such a big, all-encompassing force in the "digital lives" of individuals they need to be held to account with fair policies for dealing with Customers. If that creates an untenable business for them they can either innovate in a manner that results in a fa…

Because otherwise in the worst case Youtube can't remain free, which is arguably a good thing.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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That saying is meant for commercialized products obviously. But it's still kind of true if you stretch it to FOSS software, the allegory would be that you pay for it with your time (by fixing/bringing attention to bugs) rather than directly profiting the devs.

I pay for my mobile phone service. They still sell my location data. I pay for my TV. It still spies on me. And so on... You are always the product, paying customer or not.

You are sometimes the product when you buy something, but it's not a necessary part of that model.

You are always the product in "free" services like FB, YouTube. It is a fundamental part of that model.

There are plenty of shitty companies in both buckets (and seemingly more as time goes by) but let's not pretend there's never a difference.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Why are you using legacy centralized web 2.0 platforms ruled by fiat money? Put your video on IPFS, give it an ens.domain, mint an NFT for it. With an eth filecoin bridge it will fund its own censorship-resistance forever. That tech is great and has obsoleted web 2.0. Don't trust Google, self-govern!

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Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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The problem is not the content of the video, crypto or not. The problem is not that YT moderates aggressively (it doesn't do enough IMHO) or even how it moderates. The problem is that there is no serious appeals process, and no third party oversight of moderation decisions. This is true for all the big platforms. How do we fix that, IDK, but probably at the government level.

I don't believe "This is true for all the big platforms."

I saw lots of stories here about Google, but I don't remember see one about how Microsoft blocks user account. Did I miss?

Anyway. Couple years ago, I received several email notifications from Microsoft about someone tried to reset my account password. I got a little bit concerned and eventually sent a feedback to Microsoft asking what I need to do. Surprise! I got a answering call from Microsoft by a real human!

Because of all the bad stories about Google blocks user accounts, I moved all my stuff to Microsoft products and my own NAS.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Why are you using legacy centralized web 2.0 platforms ruled by fiat money? Put your video on IPFS, give it an ens.domain, mint an NFT for it. With an eth filecoin bridge it will fund its own censorship-resistance forever. That tech is great and has obsoleted web 2.0. Don't trust Google, self-govern!

Uhh so people might see it?

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Or maybe just use another hosting platform.There are at least 5 good reliable choices that are not from "FAANG"-tier platforms.

Which ones beside Vimeo?

Bunny.net is quite inexpensive way to host videos. Display them on your own platform with the free Video.js.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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>totally legit EthGlobal "Hack Money" hackathon > removed my channel because "Spam, scams or commercially deceptive content are not allowed on YouTube.". checks out

On Saturday 27 there was a live stream at the top of my recommended Videos.

It was a live stream from "SpaceX", where Elon Musk was presenting a talk "Elon Musk Live | Double Asteroid Redirection Test (DART) Mission | Launch SpaceX Follow DART Mission".

It wasn't SpaceX's channel, even though at a glance it would look like it, and the live presentation was just some old talk being played back.

The giveaway was the doubling of the coins sent to a specific address, BTC and ETH

https://etherscan.io/address/0x5d923a343b99885de0245f3d6bba5...

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1CD1XwABDCpvSYDKwxP3H...

YouTube really needs to be careful about what it allows its platform to stream, so having a "EthGlobal 'Hack Money' hackathon" on the platform doesn't sound like a good idea.

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