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I noticed that they're only evaluating the covid-19 death rate. Not the overall death rate. Based on the latest data from England's ONS, in the 10 to 59 year old category, the vaccinated overall death rate is almost twice as high as the unvaccinated death rate
Https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/dataset/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland
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This is completely wrong—being vaccinated does reduce your likelihood of getting infected (and thus reduces likelihood of infecting others). > In September, unvaccinated persons had a 5.8X risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 14X risk of dying from COVID-19 compared to vaccinated persons. Source: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-s...
The risk of testing positive for covid is conditioned on the probability of being tested in the first place. The CDC guidance skews towards testing unvaccinated people more aggressively, hence the numbers are predictably skewed towards the unvaccinated. Further confounding the issue, vaccination among kids and teenagers is recent, their VE numbers are going to decline over time. Medical research indicates VE against…
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>What are the best resources to answer this question? Your physician. Not hacker news.
Your physician if he reads hacker news
I am absolutely able to read a study and interpret its results. I read the phase 3 trial results for Moderna and was satisfied that it was excellent evidence for getting the vaccine. I’m not yet aware of any booster studies outside of antibody counts post booster. It would be nice to have an idea of how much my risk of Covid drops and for how long, but I’m not sure if we have evidence collected on that yet.
For the irrationally angry throwaway, here you go: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/ad... VAERS (an early warning system that allows unverified reports and requires physicians to report all seemingly related deaths) shows 0.0022% (9,810) of vaccinated individuals in the US died after receiving the vaccine. Generously assuming all those reports can be directly linked to the vaccination (they c…
> that figure is already three orders of magnitude lower than the 1.6% (772,000) I think the interesting ethical/moral/etc debate is what to do for people who are at lower or negligible risk of dying from COVID in the first place. For example, https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-... suggests that <20k people under 40 have died from covid over 2 years. There might be age groups or demographics…
Furthermore, the 0.0022% is undoubtedly a gross exaggeration of death-by-vaccine, as VAERS is designed to capture nearly any result of death after a vaccination, including things like "got hit by a car" because drugs could cause drowsiness, for instance.
In fact, it seems that people that get the vaccine have a reduced chance of dying from non-Covid things.
Dear HN, should I, a man under 40 get a booster shot? How many months after my second dose should I get it? What are the best resources to answer this question? This information is scary hard to get for someone who wants science, not politics.
I noticed that they're only evaluating the covid-19 death rate. Not the overall death rate. Based on the latest data from England's ONS, in the 10 to 59 year old category, the vaccinated overall death rate is almost twice as high as the unvaccinated death rate
Https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/dataset/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland
Can you be more specific with your claim? The age-standardised mortality rate appears to be significantly higher for the unvaccinated population according to your source.
// edit: Sorry, I missed the part where you were talking about a specific age group. This can be explained by [1].
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Https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/dataset/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland
thanks, but the link doesn't work
Isn't their data also showing that Moderna is the most effective vaccine at preventing deaths?
I'd be genuinely interested if they would provide the death rate for recovered individuals too, as that is something that gets discussed often.
For the irrationally angry throwaway, here you go: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/ad... VAERS (an early warning system that allows unverified reports and requires physicians to report all seemingly related deaths) shows 0.0022% (9,810) of vaccinated individuals in the US died after receiving the vaccine. Generously assuming all those reports can be directly linked to the vaccination (they c…
"Healthcare providers who administer COVID-19 vaccines are required by law to report the following to VAERS" ... "Death" - https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html
Even someone who dies of a car accident gets recorded as a death. There is no judgement call made as to whether the vaccine caused it at all, it is required by law.
https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/saved/D8/D159F823
VAERS is a dataset that is meaningless on its own, especially in the case of the COVID-19 vaccine. It is meant to be compared with other datasets to uncover trends which could indicate a problem with the vaccine.