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I have a friend who plays DotA 2 reguarly who alleges that toxicity is much less of a problem with that community because players can call out good or bad sportsmanship at the match end and this is taken into account by the matchmaking system. This results in all the trollers and flamers and griefers mostly getting matched up with each other in a mutually contstructed cesspit while the fun games happen elsewhere. Doe…
So, as someone with a lot of very strong opinions about both League of Legends and online communication, I am wildly in favor of this decision. The problem with all-chat in League of Legends, particularly in the ranked queue, is that it can only hurt your team's chances to win. At best, you're wasting time typing; at worst, you're actively frustrating and distracting yourself from what is already a very difficult gam…
It is funny how Dota 2 goes completely in the opposite direction. It lets you taunt[1], spray paint[2] and high five your teammate(useful when you kill an enemy). Because this (mind game) is part of winning Dota matches. You win when the opposing team loses its spirit. [1] https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Taunt_(Equipment)#List [2] https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Sprays
They have voice chat amongst teammates, though, which totally changes the way people communicate.
Toxicity is an online communication problem, and particularly a multiplayer videogame problem, and particularly a MOBA problem. There are lots of thoughts on how to fix it.
One that has not been tried very much is “take away their toys”; I, for one, am excited.
This will kill league of legends. The most fun I've ever had in this game was playing, and winning the "psychological war" by intentionally tilting the other team. The moment I'd get a hint of internal strife within the other team, myself and my friends would do whatever we could (not offensive) to encourage keyboard warrioring because it literally would win us games. They'd get sloppy, spend time typing, and would o…
The problem is team chat. The first thing I do every match is /mute all , because the chance of me getting question ping spammed, flamed, etc. is much higher than someone actually saying something useful in chat. I've been playing this game since Fiddlesticks was released in 2009, and it has always harbored the most vile children you'll come across online. It's like back in 2005 when you'd hear squeakers calling you…
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It is funny how Dota 2 goes completely in the opposite direction. It lets you taunt[1], spray paint[2] and high five your teammate(useful when you kill an enemy). Because this (mind game) is part of winning Dota matches. You win when the opposing team loses its spirit. [1] https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Taunt_(Equipment)#List [2] https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Sprays
Yep, and Dota’s got a fucking miserable community, too. They have voice chat amongst teammates, though, which totally changes the way people communicate. Toxicity is an online communication problem, and particularly a multiplayer videogame problem, and particularly a MOBA problem. There are lots of thoughts on how to fix it. One that has not been tried very much is “take away their toys”; I, for one, am excited.
That's pretty misguided. It's team chat that is toxic, not /all chat. /all chat is typically full of jokes and banter. Your opponent is not going to flame you for making what they think is a mistake. In fact /all chat can offset negative interactions you have with your team. It's not uncommon for someone from one team to give angry members of the other a "reality check" from an unbiased position, usually ending any t…
The point is not to shield people from the flame of their opponents. /mute exists, and in fact, you already have to opt in to having /all displayed in the first place. The point of this change is to stop people from engaging . > usually ending any toxicity right there. Nope, nope, nope. This is online arguments 101. Engaging with angry, anonymous, online strangers does not deescalate; it makes them angrier and draws…
as someone whe spend way to many hours of his life in bronze: yes, it is.
[3rd edit or so]: oh, that and "gg easy" which is not a nice thing to say as well.
What it should be instead is that your teammates, and the opponents can call a vote-mute for team and all-chats. This way you place the toxic person out of the social circle, not yourself.
But I guess you could also just give up, like they're doing now. Although I do want to say that 90% of toxicity happens in teamchat. Not allchat. Your opponents usually don't mind you throwing the game, your team on the other hand...
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It is funny how Dota 2 goes completely in the opposite direction. It lets you taunt[1], spray paint[2] and high five your teammate(useful when you kill an enemy). Because this (mind game) is part of winning Dota matches. You win when the opposing team loses its spirit. [1] https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Taunt_(Equipment)#List [2] https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Sprays
Yep, and Dota’s got a fucking miserable community, too. They have voice chat amongst teammates, though, which totally changes the way people communicate. Toxicity is an online communication problem, and particularly a multiplayer videogame problem, and particularly a MOBA problem. There are lots of thoughts on how to fix it. One that has not been tried very much is “take away their toys”; I, for one, am excited.
The reality our choices create, will buckle all attempts to paint over it.
They are disabling /all chat, i.e. chat between enemy teams.
They are not disabling "all chat" as in "all chat functionality".
Maybe someone could change the headline?