Is going to the office a broken way of working?

Post by mariavillosa1 » Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 6:55 PM UTC

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>but they couldn't be full, your party had to be small, and you wouldn't be there at night. Ah yes, the craziest restriction of all, restricting things from being open at night . That way, everyone goes at the same time increasing crowding. But since less people are allowed in, everyone crowds around waiting to get in. So now a place that would have 1 person an hour over 10 hours, instead has 2 people an hour over 5…

My understanding was this prevents people staying around bars and restaurants drinking, and it was (at least informally) accepted knowledge that drunk people don't distance or mask as much

Post by whywhywhywhy » Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 11:04 PM UTC

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You might be surprised to realize in a few years that they haven't died, you're just excluded from them. You might not like it, but after work drinking is one of the areas where a lot of the meat of innovation and progression in the company happens. I think a lot of people who double down on full remote are going to be surprised when they wake up in 5 years and realize they're pretty stagnant and have just become cog…

Lol, you'd be surprised to learn I'm not surprised in my expectation that these things will come back. Referring to their death literally because the bars are closed for the last year and a half, despite the hit to innovation and progression that causes. And I'll go to them once they're back, see "career progression reasons." The light ire my last comment contains is directed at the people that view these as lightwei…

Post by gwright » Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 11:46 PM UTC

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> but the reality is that most people cut ties with their coworkers I dislike this type of comment as it presumes that one person's personal experience is "reality" or a reasonable representation of what everyone else has experienced. It assumes that something as complicated as personal relationships can be can be distilled down into some sort of "average" or "normal" protocol and that if your experience doesn't alig…

I dislike this type of comment as it presumes that one person's personal experience is "reality" or a reasonable representation of what everyone else has experienced. It's my own experience, and the experience of literally everyone I've ever talked to about it, and something many people have written about in articles about the difficulties of making friends as an adult. No doubt there are people who maintain friendsh…

Post by distrill » Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 1:25 AM UTC

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Even for something quick, I will type up a question and then go over it a few times, make some edits, probably provide some links for context. It just feels like a bigger deal than just asking someone next to you. In person they can cut me off when they start to get it, or I can tell from their face that I need to keep going with more context, it's just more more collaborative. In chat I'll either end up having to an…

But the act of tapping someone in the shoulder and break their concentration already does all the harm IMO. Once you've done that, headphones on or off is redundant. In my experience, 99% of these disturbances could be avoided with a bit more effort on the side of the person interrupting. So what generally happens is that the person concentrating loses his focus - very likely getting out of the zone - and helps them…

Post by vecinu » Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 6:22 AM UTC

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I think you're correct, but one thing that is really missing nowadays, especially with phones and the internet, is active communities that exist in real life outside of work. Stuff like the elks lodge, rotary, bowling leagues, etc are just not as common anymore as I believe they used to be. Certainly there are many things that exist, but in a way societally it seems like they don't have very much cache, even as far a…

Also wanted to add in developed countries (and by corollary, big cities) it is very hard to make friends once you are an adult. When I lived in Vietnam it is 10x easier to date/make friends/get involved in the local community (vs NYC,LA or SF)