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Netflix Won’t Take Down Dave Chappelle Special, Ted Sarandos Says

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Re: Netflix Won’t Take Down Dave Chappelle Special, Ted Sarandos Says

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Post by h4ngw1t3tr4sh »

aiscapehumanity wrote: post #40
throwawaysea wrote: post #10

Good, but Netflix needs to extend the same “creative freedom” more broadly than just stand up comedy. Neither JK Rowling nor Dave Chapelle nor anyone else should be cancelled for expressing an opinion on a controversial topic that is ultimately based on social consensus and has lots of room for interpretation and differences of opinion. But other content should also be similarly unmoderated and reflect a diversity of…

People really acting like he's a philosopher or canary in th coal mine.

That’s the usually what comedians actually are. It’s funny your sarcasm was factual.

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Post by h4ngw1t3tr4sh »

tptacek wrote: post #29
hresvelgr wrote: post #26

Mentions to cancel culture always make me remember a particular quote by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe: "Distrust those in whom the desire to punish is strong." It is very sad to me that Daphne (the trans woman who committed suicide) got lynched by the LGBTQ+ community for defending Dave Chappelle because she actually knew him personally and that those jokes were just that, jokes. Having watched the special, I felt real…

Nobody was lynched, and "the" LGBTQ+ didn't do anything here.

Lol… I see a parallel universe where you claimed someone was lynched for the exact same scenario, but this time it fits your ideology. You’re the hallmark of two face behaviour.

Re: Netflix Won’t Take Down Dave Chappelle Special, Ted Sarandos Says

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Post by kcplate »

asah wrote: post #55
webinvest wrote: post #20

Comedians all need special protection from this “cancel culture” crap. They’re far more enjoyable than the bots on Twitter that engage in flame & rant wars.

Where's the line? Louis CK ?

How about you feel free to determine your line in the sand, and I will determine mine.

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Post by asah »

kcplate wrote: post #63
asah wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where's the line? Louis CK ?

How about you feel free to determine your line in the sand, and I will determine mine.

This sounds nice, but results in everyone from Hitler on down given free reign, leading directly to everything from Kristallnacht to Jan 6 to shouting fire in a crowded theater.

Can we agree to draw a line in the sand somewhere before legit hate speech?

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Post by webinvest »

asah wrote: post #55
webinvest wrote: post #20

Comedians all need special protection from this “cancel culture” crap. They’re far more enjoyable than the bots on Twitter that engage in flame & rant wars.

Where's the line? Louis CK ?

I wrote that parent comment with Louis CK in mind. He’s hilarious and needs comedian protection.

The line in the sand is where you break a law or are sued and taken to court. The penalty is the legal result of breaking the law or the settlement/verdict from court. Trial by mob is never the appropriate response.

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Post by mkr-hn »

hresvelgr wrote: post #26

Mentions to cancel culture always make me remember a particular quote by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe: "Distrust those in whom the desire to punish is strong." It is very sad to me that Daphne (the trans woman who committed suicide) got lynched by the LGBTQ+ community for defending Dave Chappelle because she actually knew him personally and that those jokes were just that, jokes. Having watched the special, I felt real…

So we should distrust whoever in Netflix's C-suite keeps firing trans people who criticize it. If you want to be consistent.

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Post by systemvoltage »

sofixa wrote: post #56
systemvoltage wrote: post #48

I am contemplating exactly what is the motivation for me to actively, pick up the proverbial pitch fork, get worked up and go out on a some ideological battle on Twitter? Life is too interesting to waste time on cancel-culture-activism. Cancelling others would guarantee never winning them back again for your cause. Defend your stance not through suppression of others but an irresistable pull to the same appeal that s…

Meh, look at it this way: You saw/heard/etc. something you consider abhorrent ( e.g. shout racial slurs at a teenage footballer, sexually assaulted someone, etc.). You can't believe such people exist, and can't even remotely relate to them. You're pissed, terrified that those people exist and they seem to suffer no consequences for their actions. So what do you do? Good old boycotts. I think that the whole thing ( "c…

There are a lot of terrible people out there doesn't mean we replace the justice system with sharia-law of Twitter mobs. I am not convinced by your arguments.
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