OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

Post by kbos87 » Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 3:42 PM UTC

disneygibson wrote: post #353

Inevitable outcome in a society that is terrified of everything. And to think that our ancestors sailed across the oceans into the unknown and faced diseases, war, famine, and worse. Now we are instituting a surveillance state in the name of a fairly bad flu virus with a 99% survival rate. We really need a new frontier. Hopefully space travel happens before human beings become completely domesticated.

Post by clairity » Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 3:43 PM UTC

burntwater wrote: post #474

disneygibson wrote: post #353

Inevitable outcome in a society that is terrified of everything. And to think that our ancestors sailed across the oceans into the unknown and faced diseases, war, famine, and worse. Now we are instituting a surveillance state in the name of a fairly bad flu virus with a 99% survival rate. We really need a new frontier. Hopefully space travel happens before human beings become completely domesticated.

I never understand this whole "99% survival rate" being presented as if that's low. I don't know about you, but if I'm around something that has a 1 in 100 chance of killing me, I'm going to do everything I can to not let it, because those are NOT low odds. It also conveniently ignores the known and unknown long-haul effects from Covid, which impacts a significant percentage (20%?). I, for one, like staying in relati…

Post by kbos87 » Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 3:44 PM UTC

disneygibson wrote: post #516

ramphastidae wrote: post #513

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And those ancestors would switch places with us in a heartbeat. You are romanticizing.

No, they wouldn’t, considering that they explicitly set up difficult lives for themselves according to their values. And no, you can’t read the minds of long dead people either. Is it really so difficult to consider that we live in a scared, lazy age?

Post by disneygibson » Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 3:46 PM UTC

jpambrun wrote: post #724

disneygibson wrote: post #353

Inevitable outcome in a society that is terrified of everything. And to think that our ancestors sailed across the oceans into the unknown and faced diseases, war, famine, and worse. Now we are instituting a surveillance state in the name of a fairly bad flu virus with a 99% survival rate. We really need a new frontier. Hopefully space travel happens before human beings become completely domesticated.

The terrified of everything portion of you comment still applies if we change "fairly bad flu virus with a 99% survival rate" to "extremely safe vaccine with 0.007 risk of adverse effects".

Post by drewg123 » Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 3:47 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #684

drewg123 wrote: post #426

For those of you arguing against getting vaccinated, please go volunteer at a local hospital. I'm currently in the hospital in the "red" part of my purple state. I had an acute appendicitis, and had to wait in a temporary, crowded, understaffed holding area in the ER for over 18 hours before getting admitted for treatment. My roommate in the hospital has an infected foot, and waited over 24 hours to be admitted. He m…

> If they were to just die at home instead of Please don't post in the flamewar style to HN. Arguing that the other side should die is beyond the pale—I realize people on the internet are going there with alacrity, but it's exactly the kind of thing we don't want here, regardless of how right you are or feel you are. Please don't post like this to HN. I can certainly understand why you feel strongly under the circums…