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I see this as an unmitigated good and the only way we move forward on normalcy. May it inspire others to do similar so we can address vaccinations here then move our surplus abroad.
I reluctantly support this. I also think a bunch of companies that have many/most employees who can work from home were hoping that they could get through this without widespread mandates given that the reluctant mostly didn’t have to come into the office or customer sites.
If they can safely work from home this is clearly not an occupational safety and health issue and osha doesn't have any business getting involved. So this is either clearly an overreach or osha was just the vector biden used to exert power he didn't have on his own.
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Yes, this is the same as putting people in concentration camps Unbelievable…
It’s in fact the definition of fascism. Concentration camps aren’t unique to fascism, and you could have a fascist system without them. Edit: I think I replied to the wrong thread, actually. The thread I was on asked: “What’s the term for the fusion of state and corporate power?”
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I'm not sure I understand the principle here of refusing the vaccine (which does reduce spread, though doesn't make it impossible). If your employer paid you to come in early or stay late to get the vaccine -- why refuse?
> If your employer paid you to come in early or stay late to get the vaccine -- why refuse? Because I make my own decisions and my willingness to do something is inversely proportional to how hard it is being pushed on me.
And now we are telling you to get the vaccine or get tested weekly because we are not willing to let you put everyone else in danger.
Whether or not you agree if there is legal authority for mandates for this vaccine or this pandemic, where does it end? The trajectory we're on is for all people to be monitored by the State for compliance with the vaccine programs. Israel is already saying 4 shots (and more) will required [0] to participate in that society. Australia, New Zealand, and Canada are quasi-police states [1] and will probably mandate vacc…
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VAERS shows several thousand have died. Some estimate 45k based on a Harvard study on VAERS indicating a % that goes unreported.
Please, cite your source.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaers-9318/fact-ch...
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Maybe slightly off topic, but it’s always been odd to me how life insurance tests with vigor for tobacco use but lack that enthusiasm for metabolic health / diet.
We still don't really understand how diet affects health long term. The effects of smoking OTOH are extremely clear.
Authoritarianism Incorporated.
Let me guess, seat belt mandates are also “authoritarian”? What about measles vaccine requirements? Have you complained about those recently? Believe it or not, there was a time when measles wasn’t a thing and very few question the need for a measles vaccine now. What about the broad polio vaccine rollout? Vaccine hesitancy has been a thing, but never this strongly along party lines
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Why would employers need additional immunity? Do schools usually need legal immunity when they require vaccines?
The MMR vaccine required by school is sterilizing, once and done. Intramuscular Covid vaccines provide blood/serum antibodies that can reduce the risk of severe disease or death, but they are non-sterilizing. They never promised to prevent infection and the CDC has updated their definitions to make that clear. Why would employers need legal immunity? Their lawyers may want to look closely at the legal immunity protec…
Not quite:
> The term “covered person”, when used with respect to the administration or use of a covered countermeasure, means— (A) the United States; or (B) a person or entity that is— [...] (iv) a qualified person who prescribed, administered, or dispensed such countermeasure;
Prescribing, administering, and dispensing are very different from “recommending”.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840...