OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce
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#2Is the federal government going to provide employers with the same legal immunity granted to pharmaceutical vendors via the PREP act?
Does this mandate incorporate the Sept 2021 CDC definition of vaccine, https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article25...
> Before the change, the definition for “vaccination” read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.” The term “vaccine” also got a makeover. The CDC’s definition changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”
Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce
#3 > OSHA will issue an Emergency Temporary
> Standard (ETS) to implement this requirement
Well, I guess one should never let a good crisis go to waste...
Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce
#4Is the federal government going to provide employers with the same legal immunity granted to pharmaceutical vendors via the PREP act? Does this mandate incorporate the Sept 2021 CDC definition of vaccine, https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article25... > Before the change, the definition for “vaccination” read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.”…
Why would employers need additional immunity? Do schools usually need legal immunity when they require vaccines?
Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce
#5Is the federal government going to provide employers with the same legal immunity granted to pharmaceutical vendors via the PREP act? Does this mandate incorporate the Sept 2021 CDC definition of vaccine, https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article25... > Before the change, the definition for “vaccination” read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.”…
Why would employers need additional immunity? Do schools usually need legal immunity when they require vaccines?
The MMR vaccine required by school is sterilizing, once and done. Intramuscular Covid vaccines provide blood/serum antibodies that can reduce the risk of severe disease or death, but they are non-sterilizing. They never promised to prevent infection and the CDC has updated their definitions to make that clear.
Why would employers need legal immunity? Their lawyers may want to look closely at the legal immunity protections of the PREP act, which extend to healthcare professionals who recommend "countermeasures".
Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would employers need additional immunity? Do schools usually need legal immunity when they require vaccines?
The MMR vaccine required by school is sterilizing, once and done. Intramuscular Covid vaccines provide blood/serum antibodies that can reduce the risk of severe disease or death, but they are non-sterilizing. They never promised to prevent infection and the CDC has updated their definitions to make that clear. Why would employers need legal immunity? Their lawyers may want to look closely at the legal immunity protec…
Why would that change liability requirements?
My fundamental question is that schools already have tons of vaccine requirements, so why should this one be considered special?
Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce
#7if they try to pull this here, I know for a fact my 65-year-old coworker—who has been working from home ever since we were mandated to wear a mask only in the building lobby (this ended July 1st)—won't put up with it, and I won't either, so that's 2/3 of the school district programmers they'd have to fire. thankfully our governor has already stated she's going to take any such actions to court.
Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
The MMR vaccine required by school is sterilizing, once and done. Intramuscular Covid vaccines provide blood/serum antibodies that can reduce the risk of severe disease or death, but they are non-sterilizing. They never promised to prevent infection and the CDC has updated their definitions to make that clear. Why would employers need legal immunity? Their lawyers may want to look closely at the legal immunity protec…
Why would that change liability requirements? My fundamental question is that schools already have tons of vaccine requirements, so why should this one be considered special?
Because it alters the risk/benefit calculus. A sterilizing vaccine that stops transmission in its tracks, has a clear public health benefit to every part of society, even if there are risks. A non-sterilizing vaccine does not provide that society-wide public health benefit, leaving the employer to bear risks without benefit.
Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would that change liability requirements? My fundamental question is that schools already have tons of vaccine requirements, so why should this one be considered special?
Because it alters the risk/benefit calculus. A sterilizing vaccine that stops transmission in its tracks, has a clear public health benefit to every part of society, even if there are risks. A non-sterilizing vaccine does not provide that society-wide public health benefit, leaving the employer to bear risks without benefit.
But the COVID vaccine does provide a society-wide public health benefit. Our best available data indicates that it reduces the risk of transmission, even for Delta [1].
1. https://www.acsh.org/news/2021/09/07/covid-19-vaccines-preve...
Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce
#10if they try to pull this here, I know for a fact my 65-year-old coworker—who has been working from home ever since we were mandated to wear a mask only in the building lobby (this ended July 1st)—won't put up with it, and I won't either, so that's 2/3 of the school district programmers they'd have to fire. thankfully our governor has already stated she's going to take any such actions to court.
Are you guys irreplaceable?