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Arm China Has Gone Rogue

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Re: Arm China Has Gone Rogue

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Post by landryraccoon »

chrischen wrote: post #644
landryraccoon wrote: post #462

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I'm curious where you fix the goalposts. The GDP of the Soviet Union never exceeded that of the United States at any point. If the GDP of China exceeds the United States in the near future (which seems quite possible), how does that fact reconcile with your analysis? I find the government of China to be morally reprehensible. However there are plenty of cases in history in the real world where that which is morally r…

If they prevail in the short term then that answers your question. A lot of things prevail in the short term. If they prevail in the long term, then we might need to revisit our morals.

The "short term" on a historical timescale can easily be longer than your lifetime or mine.

If China collapses in two hundred years due to it's moral failings, that will be no more comfort to us than the United States collapsing might be to the indigenous tribes that used to live in North America before Europeans arrived.

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Post by vikiomega9 »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #573
vikiomega9 wrote: post #268

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I agree with you except post-independence in the middle of the 19th and 20th century , the supposedly benevolent West hedged and continue to plunder and usurp Africa and Asia. Values based? Sure, see how rational it is, for you but not for us. We must agree upon universal declarations and you better listen up we know what we're doing . I have no idea why you think these are `silly ritual flagellations`. Drop everythi…

Dang dude, this is clearly bothering you. You should find a professional therapist to talk through this with, sincerely.

Thank you for being flippant. I'm too poor for a therapist.

Re: Arm China Has Gone Rogue

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Post by me_me_me »

coldacid wrote: post #554
jacknews wrote: post #515

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Exactly. Why are companies and their governments still falling for it? Contrast with how Chinese companies operate in the west, essentially imposing a system of apartheid between Chinese bosses and western workers.

Because C-level execs and corporate directors think only as far as the next quarterly report and don't consider the big picture.

Well that wont be my problem after i get this big bonus!

Re: Arm China Has Gone Rogue

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Post by throwaway894345 »

vikiomega9 wrote: post #672
throwaway894345 wrote: post #573

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Dang dude, this is clearly bothering you. You should find a professional therapist to talk through this with, sincerely.

Thank you for being flippant. I'm too poor for a therapist.

Sorry man, this forum isn’t for emotional or psychological support. I can’t help you. Good luck, genuinely.

Re: Arm China Has Gone Rogue

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Post by NotACop182 »

roflulz wrote: post #629
deroanth wrote: post #533

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Very curious where the US is commiting genocide or ethnic cleansing. Honestly want to know.

have you heard of indian reservations?

You’re joking right? Indian reservations are their land. And they are free to move live work where ever without government oversight. This comment must be bait because I don’t see the logic.

Re: Arm China Has Gone Rogue

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Post by xmly »

freemint wrote: post #614
xmly wrote: post #102

I wish the author can learn some Chinese before writing this article. And the related Chinese news was already there last year. The thing is the pure ARM internal political conflicts. ARM China CEO WU, a US citizen, claimed that he reported few high-level managers' corruptions and then he got fired by the ARM Softbank. ARM Softbank united with all board directors, including all Chinese investors, to fire Wu. But when…

Source please? Those are extraordinary claims. Chinese is totally fine.

而吴雄昂在此次采访中透露，他曾与厚朴投资达成一项协议，双方必须在所有涉及Arm中国的重大事项上保持“步调一致”，因此投票罢免他的决议无效。

https://www.guancha.cn/economy/2020_11_29_572945.shtml

Re: Arm China Has Gone Rogue

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Post by xmly »

xmly wrote: post #676
freemint wrote: post #614

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Source please? Those are extraordinary claims. Chinese is totally fine.

而吴雄昂在此次采访中透露，他曾与厚朴投资达成一项协议，双方必须在所有涉及Arm中国的重大事项上保持“步调一致”，因此投票罢免他的决议无效。 https://www.guancha.cn/economy/2020_11_29_572945.shtml

Google translate: And Wu Xiongang revealed in this interview that he had reached an agreement with Hopu Investment, and the two parties must maintain "a consistent pace" on all major matters involving Arm China. Therefore, the decision to vote to remove him was invalid.

Re: Arm China Has Gone Rogue

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Post by nl »

CRConrad wrote: post #667
spoonjim wrote: post #492

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This 40 year process has very little to do with Arm or Softbank. Arm and SoftBank are the end stages of the disease, the window for treatment is long passed.

Sure, there may be some larger process going on too -- but that has nothing to do with this. According to the article: SoftBank started "ARM China" as a joint venture with a Chinese consortium, and later sold more of it to them, so they now hold a controlling 51% interest in it. ARM China isn't "going rogue"; it's doing what its owners want it to do, just like a good obedient non-rogue subsidiary should. The article…

ARM China isn't "going rogue"; it's doing what its owners want it to do, just like a good obedient non-rogue subsidiary should. The article not mentioning this basic fact with a single word doesn't mean what's happening is weird; it means the article is bad.

This isn't actually correct. The board voted to replace the CEO (7-1) but the CEO wouldn't give up the physical company seal (which is China represents the company), and he used that to gain control of the company.

This is not conventional behaviour at all!!

Re: Arm China Has Gone Rogue

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Post by kragen »

jhgb wrote: post #616
kragen wrote: post #615

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You can't make a Sprengel pump without distilling your mercury (it doesn't work if the mercury sticks to the walls of the tubes and leaves crap all over them), and you can't make a vacuum tube without some kind of hard vacuum pump, and, as I pointed out above, the Sprengel pump was the only kind of hard vacuum pump available for decades. (I already explained all of this fairly clearly in previous comments, such as ht…

Again, 1) the tools are traditionally not a part of the invention, 2) by referring to distillation as a prerequisite for the mercury vacuum pump operation, you're referring to a tool twice removed from the invention in question, and 3) even mercury distillation itself is not based on ayurveda anyway. It's based on physics.

I've commented further at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28360306.

Re: Arm China Has Gone Rogue

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Post by dang »

leephillips wrote: post #563
nzmsv wrote: post #525

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But an individual person is not a foreign entity, especially not if they are a US citizen. There is the loophole for "representing interests of a foreign principal before US government officials" though, so I guess this is written broadly enough to snag anyone who may step on some toes.

Who’s talking about the person being a foreign entity? You’re seriously confused.

Please don't cross into personal attack. If another commenter is confused, or you feel they are, it's enough to supply correct information in a helpful spirit. Alternatively, it's always fine not to post.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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