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Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by alanfalcon »

maukdaddy wrote: post #33
socksy wrote: post #18

If this is the case, wouldn't it be cheaper to take sweetened water, add food colouring and flavouring? I assume someone's probably doing it already.

It's called Sunny Delight. And you would be shocked to learn how many people think Sunny D is real orange juice.

I remember watching a Sunny Delight commercial as a kid. Someone is digging through the fridge listing the drink options... "We got OJ, Purple Stuff, Soda... And Sunny D!"

Before that commercial, I was one of those people who thought Sunny D was OJ.

Call it bad advertising: I looked at Sunny D as "Orange Stuff" after that ad and no longer wanted it.

EDIT: I guess I'm not the only one who remembers the commercials, there's a spoof on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiOaBTpKqnk&NR=1&feat... (and of course the real thing is on YouTube if you care to find it)

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by Jach »

ak217 wrote: post #45
Jach wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pictures are helpful. http://www.pepperidgefarm.com/Images/Products/prdLarge_12053... for Cheddar Goldfish, this is what's usually in stores: http://staticc.wisegeek.com/images/calories/calories-in-medi... I (and I suspect most Americans) would never associate something like this with Cheddar Cheese: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Somerset-Cheddar.jpg (or any other pic on the page for that matter, except for "#19"…

Really? Everywhere I've been in the States the amount of white cheddar is roughly equal to colored cheddar, and in the gourmet cheese section there is rarely any colored cheddar.

Here's another couple images I've found: http://blog.thenickstevens.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ch... http://www.flickr.com/photos/claire_waverly/4686708528/ I guess I have seen white cheddar, but most often mixed with the yellow/orange coloring people are familiar with. e.g. "cheddar jack": http://www.osceolacheese.com/catalog/images/hickory%20smoked... In any case I'd bet people associate white cheese more with mozzarella (pizza cheese, cheese stick/string cheese) than cheddar. Another cheddar product I associate with is Mac&Cheese.

The gourmet cheese section/island is different! And I agree there's rarely coloured cheese. I suspect few shoppers who go straight to the Cheese Aisle (which is dominated by yellow cheddar/cheddar varieties) even know of its existence, even if they walk by it, let alone dare sample anything new/different/highly priced.

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by bfe »

KristenM wrote: post #21
rmason wrote: post #8

Hate to be cynical but I suspect the whole point of the article is to sell you on buying a juicer. The domain is owned by a copy writing firm called http://www.wonderworkingwords.com/ . I can't prove it but I am willing to wager that a juicer firm commissioned the article. The firms motto after all is 'words that sell'.

Good news! I'm not an industry shill. I'm a stay at home mom who homeschools my three kids and earns money blogging. If you read the disclosure statements on my site, you'll see that I never write paid posts or content. I do sell advertising, though, (from which I make a pretty penny, thank you) and the link is a link to a page full of text ads. I used to be a copywriter, but haven't done that since my blog took off…

Welcome and glad to have you. And while you're not a shill, I find your site misguided, in overly relying on equating natural, traditional diets with healthy, leading you to some recommendations that are orthogonal to healthiness, like fermented veggies and sprouted grains, and some that are unhelpful to health, like red meat and butter. The people of Finland drastically improved their health metrics when they transitioned to a modern mainstream European diet away from their natural, traditional Finnish diet of lots of red meat and butter.

Modern scientific findings, properly analyzed, are an astonishingly better guide to human health than any traditional collection of folk wisdom.

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by pyre »

palish wrote: post #47
wisty wrote: post #42

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I doubt the whole "metabolism" thing. 90% of the people I meet with a "gland problem" also drink about half a gallon of Coke every day, and snack on chips or sweets. Maybe they have a super-cream frappacino after work, but don't watch that because it's just a coffee. They usually have terrible habits, are are in complete denial about how many calories those habits constitute.

I drink 88oz of coke every day. A gallon is 128oz. I also snack on chips a lot. I'm definitely not skinny, but by your logic, I should be about to overtake Gabe Newell. I'm not. Most people are arrogant and think they know more than they do. The truth is, we know very little about nutrition (in an absolute sense, like "I absolutely know that if I hit that ball with X force, it will move Y meters").

We do know basics though, like "you need vitamin C." If you eat no foods that contain essential nutrients (that our bodies don't produce) you will become deficient.

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by rdouble »

palish wrote: post #47
wisty wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt the whole "metabolism" thing. 90% of the people I meet with a "gland problem" also drink about half a gallon of Coke every day, and snack on chips or sweets. Maybe they have a super-cream frappacino after work, but don't watch that because it's just a coffee. They usually have terrible habits, are are in complete denial about how many calories those habits constitute.

I drink 88oz of coke every day. A gallon is 128oz. I also snack on chips a lot. I'm definitely not skinny, but by your logic, I should be about to overtake Gabe Newell. I'm not. Most people are arrogant and think they know more than they do. The truth is, we know very little about nutrition (in an absolute sense, like "I absolutely know that if I hit that ball with X force, it will move Y meters").

I drink 88oz of coke every day...I also snack on chips a lot... ...by your logic, I should be about to overtake Gabe Newell. I'm not.

be patient bro you're on the right track

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by palish »

pyre wrote: post #54
palish wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I drink 88oz of coke every day. A gallon is 128oz. I also snack on chips a lot. I'm definitely not skinny, but by your logic, I should be about to overtake Gabe Newell. I'm not. Most people are arrogant and think they know more than they do. The truth is, we know very little about nutrition (in an absolute sense, like "I absolutely know that if I hit that ball with X force, it will move Y meters").

We do know basics though, like "you need vitamin C." If you eat no foods that contain essential nutrients (that our bodies don't produce) you will become deficient.

Certainly. That was an important step in our understanding. And we need to do more research.

I'm merely saying science is harmed when people blatantly decide to overlook reality.

It seems very interesting to me that I can drink 88oz of soda every day for the past 6 months and still be at the same weight. Why is that?

And it raises other interesting questions, too. Like the meaning of "health". For example, I know my muscles haven't been impacted, because I just armwrestled my wife's father and won, and the dude builds pole barns for a living. Like, goes out and actually builds them himself.

So if soda is so terrible, why haven't I been affected? Or is the truth that I'm overlooking some aspect of my health? I'm interested in the answers, but I won't ever find out if arrogant scientists continue with the "soda is terrible!" mantra.

Edit: as pyre points out, if someone reads this and thinks "Gee, maybe I'll try suddenly drinking 88oz of soda every day too!"... don't. I was just pointing out what I do, not saying that it's safe.

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by pyre »

bfe wrote: post #53
KristenM wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good news! I'm not an industry shill. I'm a stay at home mom who homeschools my three kids and earns money blogging. If you read the disclosure statements on my site, you'll see that I never write paid posts or content. I do sell advertising, though, (from which I make a pretty penny, thank you) and the link is a link to a page full of text ads. I used to be a copywriter, but haven't done that since my blog took off…

Welcome and glad to have you. And while you're not a shill, I find your site misguided, in overly relying on equating natural, traditional diets with healthy, leading you to some recommendations that are orthogonal to healthiness, like fermented veggies and sprouted grains, and some that are unhelpful to health, like red meat and butter. The people of Finland drastically improved their health metrics when they transi…

  > properly analyzed
That's the catch.

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by seandougall »

pg wrote: post #3
blackboxxx wrote: post #2

Not sure if this is an urban myth or not, but I've heard Cheese Wiz is actually grey. Orange food coloring is later added to the goo to give it that cheddar color.

The orange color you associate with cheddar is artificial. Originally it was due to annatto, though they may use something else now.

It's still annatto, which is also used to color butter (among countless other things).

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by Tsagadai »

saturn wrote: post #41
palish wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I deny that it contributes to obesity for all people. I believe no one can actually claim people understand nutrition --- in the same way we understand Newtonian physics, for example. I've never cared about what I eat. If I want something, I eat it. When I'm full, I stop. Over the last two years, my weight has stayed between 210lbs and 220lbs. I'm lucky. But I'm also a datapoint. Since some people can simply not care…

No offence, but only an American could make the argument that because their weight has stayed "only" between 95kg and 100kg that they are living proof that people can eat what they want and not get fat. Unless you are a bodybuilder, which I am guessing you are not since they most certainly do care about what they eat, you are likely considered overweight in every other country on earth.

My weight fluctuates between ~90kg and ~105kg. I'm over 200cm. In no sense of either word am I overweight or a bodybuilder. It is definitely possible to be over 100kg and not considered overweight if you are tall.
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