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This is real. There has been a total invasion of commies to HN over the past decade. I don't know if it's the schools to blame or what but something has definitely flipped. Hackers, as a demographic used to be hard-core libertarian (not necessarily a party member).
You've been here a decade but your account was created today and you've not read the guidelines? A little hard to credit.
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>This isn't a meaningful claim for 2 key reasons. There has never been a vaccine that had serious side effects that did show up shortly after vaccination[2]. The history of mRNA treatments began as an experiment in gene therapy, but has largely ben abandoned because the effects never lasted long enough. As of 2020 this is an ongoing area of research[3]. No one has figure out how to stabilize mRNA so that it has long…
> So who's to say that immune system reaction triggered by vaccination isn't causing same kind of hard to detect damage This is pure conjecture base on literally nothing. I don't mean to sound harsh, but it's just baseless. The immune response from the vaccine works like any other type of vaccine immune response. The mRNA vaccines cause you own cells machinery to build virus proteins at which point it works just like…
You are assuming because the mechanism is the same that the effects will be as well - it's like saying "we have this black box service we sort of have an idea of what it does and if we send it X/Y/Z we know what happens, it should work the same with W too - I've been in that scenario often enough to know that's an assumption that I'd rather see the data for.
I already saw that people in my peer group reported short term side effects like headache after getting vaccination, have taken days off from work, family members complained about dizziness the day after.
It's relatively easy to do these studies along with long COVID studies, should be insignificant even compares to money that will be spent on vaccination campaigns - so why skip out on valuable data.
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> The threat from the virus is not only immediate risk to the individual, it is also further transmissions increasing the risk of creating new breakthrough variants > Tolerating disease spread and threats to vulnerable populations when vaccines are available that are practically risk-free (or the risk being magnitudes smaller than the payoff) is ridiculous Those are very different justifications with very different p…
How in the world could vaccine rollout have been any faster? This is the fastest a vaccination program has ever been run, for anything, ever. We're at 60% population vaccination after SIX MONTHS, which is absolutely insane -- polio was slower, and they were allowed jet injectors! Vaccination is going as fast as possible, and policy was implemented to minimize all mixing of people, not just Vax/unvax.
We’re not talking about the total vaccination rate; it is a matter of how diffuse or concentrated it had to be for a particular locale to minimize variant training. Obviously it brings up questions of fairness thus was avoided by politicians.
> Vaccination is going as fast as possible, and policy was implemented to minimize all mixing of people, not just Vax/unvax.
It was a lofty aspiration but wasn’t/hasn’t been good enough. We could have had different levels of strictness from the beginning when lifting lockdowns, instead of going a full open and betting on a no variant scenario, instead of now with too late of an attempt, which will anger people and won’t be likely to work well.
What is the plan for undocumented workers? Especially in restaurants. Even if they managed to get vaccinated by providing valid "proof of age" documentation[1], they will not appear in the registries. And if anyone was skeptical and thought that the state might be lying about not tracking identity and immigration status, surely that identity information would likely be false. This is a significant, and likely a major…
In California you can get your shots without showing any ID, and in fact for my first shot nobody checked mine.
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Thank you for providing an excellent example of the fear-based reasoning surrounding "cases". I understand that you are scared, but is incorrect to imply that my opinion comes from a lack of understanding of what you're talking about. > Why is this so hard for people to understand? I understand your argument, but I disagree with you, based on a long education in this area, a deep understanding of the data, and person…
> A virus doesn't just enter your body, and quietly go away. > >Some do not. This one does. It's sad but we really need a way to flag covid misinformation like this on HN. There is absolutely no proof that covid disappears after a certain amount of time, this is obvious because only 2 years has passed since 2019. The evidence we have so far is that some people remain with long-term symptoms at least as far as until n…
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>This isn't a meaningful claim for 2 key reasons. There has never been a vaccine that had serious side effects that did show up shortly after vaccination[2]. The history of mRNA treatments began as an experiment in gene therapy, but has largely ben abandoned because the effects never lasted long enough. As of 2020 this is an ongoing area of research[3]. No one has figure out how to stabilize mRNA so that it has long…
> I'm not a risk group and have no problems with social distancing so I'm waiting for stuff like this to come out. Respectfully, I think what you're really waiting for is this thing to blow over so you don't have to take any personal risk. That's likely to be a fail, as you're just a waiting Petri dish for the live virus to infect. All kinds of things have risk and the craven merchants of doubt are busy spreading FUD…
I don't really mind social distancing measures untill people in the risk groups get vaccinated - all of my high risk contacts have been. So I don't get what we need to get out of, my government is already saying they will eliminate COVID measures after summer, UK style.
I'll get vaccinated at some point if I have to do it for travel or what not - right now I'm not convinced - the social arguments don't make much sense to me (variants will come up anyway, you can get infected and spread the virus even if vaccinated you're just reducing risk)
Pretty dismal discussion in here at the time of writing. Largely complaints about tyranny. Makes me sad that we can't have a calm discussion about the merits of the policy. From what I can tell, you might be opposed to this policy if: 1. You have fears about getting a vaccine, moreso than for coronavirus. If this is you, do you prefer a mask mandate? And if so, how do you enforce this in a restaurant, where anyone ea…
Could you explain why you are NOT afraid? Can you please explain what Apple and the City of New York have done to earn the kind of trust you want me to place in them?
Is your starry-eyed trust also extended to police departments as well?
They are building infrastructure to track people everywhere and punish us for non-compliance.
Do you believe that systematic racism exists, and if so, do you think that it is possible that it could creep into the new health surveillance and enforcement infrastructure that they are building? Are there any mechanisms to challenge the abuses that will happen?
I would be more ok with these policies if they pledged to dismantle (or mothball) contact tracing as soon as it is no longer needed, instead of just leaving it up and expanding it forever "just in case", as they certainly will do.
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The problem is also that there is political pressure to approve it. That sucks. Whatever time it takes to go through the process is the time it takes. Pushing it through is only going to do two things: 1) show that the process is political and that FDA approval is fungible and 2) make us wonder what the purpose of it is and why we should ever do it at all after this, if it can just be bypassed when politically conven…
Yeah, it's a tough situation for sure. I've been wondering if there's a more creative solution that could be implemented here. Like someone from the FDA coming and saying, hey, we obviously won't know long term effects with 100% certainty until a few years pass, but all the signs we're seeing indicate the vaccines are just as safe as any other vaccines up to this point, we've gotten it ourselves, and it's our belief…
The big problem for me is in making light of the process that, perfect or imperfect, is a extremely important in a for-profit pharma paradigm.
Fond memories of the days this was the sole domain of paranoid conspiracy theorists. Now, at the exact same moment that we are getting evidence of the mRNA vaccines' rapidly waning efficacy[1] and ineffectiveness at reducing transmission of the Delta variant, the screws are being tightened and the unvaccinated are being scapegoated. Never mind that this variant arose in India where there was never any possibility of…
Got a better source? This website contains misinformation. https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/ > E) The facemask aerosol issue > In the following video, Dr. Theodore Noel explains the facemask aerosol issue. https://factcheck.afp.com/doctor-expired-license-falsely-cla... https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/feb/08/facebook-p... the fact that we have accounts on here with large amounts of reputation reposting…
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This seriously needs a cite. First time I've heard this claim.
You need a citation to understand which part? That poor people most often have service jobs such as retail or food service? That service jobs are higher risk for Covid transmission than white collar jobs? Or that poor people have few resources to address health issues if they get Covid?