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The solution is to stop playing the bullshit game of Taiwan non-recognition, give it a seat in the UN and protect it.
Can a place be recognized as a country by the UN if a Security Council member vetos?
It's best to think of the UN as a meeting place where consensus can form, rather than as a law making body with a well functioning appeal and dispute resolution process for its own deliberations.
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No, they wouldn't deliberately stop selling the product of intact, fully staffed fabs after gaining control of them. But we're not talking about a corporate takeover. We're talking about a naval invasion of a very densely populated and well defended island. That might involve heavy artillery bombardment and prolonged urban combat, maybe a guerilla war and sabotage actions. There is no guarantee that the fabs are stil…
Then what will China get from that? I mean, we're on different political sides, not good vs evil, please acknowledge that.
The CCP and Xi in particular have turned "reunification" into a matter of national and personal pride.
More substantially, they see Taiwanese independance as a threat because it could serve as an example to independance movements in Hong Kong, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia and probably a few more.
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Then what will China get from that? I mean, we're on different political sides, not good vs evil, please acknowledge that.
> we're on different political sides, not good vs evil One of the sides runs a series of concentration camps. Sells organs from political prisoners, etc. But yes, I suppose it's just politics. Personally, I think genocide is slightly evil, but feel free to disagree.
If, I mean If, China is evil, wouldn't that make any country not declaring war to China evil too?
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I don't want to argue if China will "invade" Taiwan. But what make you think China will "cut off the world" IF that happens? That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works.
> what make you think China will "cut off the world" IF that happens? You think leading US chip designers would send their designs to China? The well organized state of industrial espionage by China, is a pretty good reason this won't happen. Furthermore, the rest of the world would be forced to embargo anything related to Taiwan.
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Then what will China get from that? I mean, we're on different political sides, not good vs evil, please acknowledge that.
China's interest in Taiwan has nothing to do with economy. The CCP and Xi in particular have turned "reunification" into a matter of national and personal pride. More substantially, they see Taiwanese independance as a threat because it could serve as an example to independance movements in Hong Kong, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia and probably a few more.
And what's wrong with national pride? And in what way do you think waging a war could boost pride? I thought we learnt that after two WWs. You might want to check China's current economy and civilian living status, we are not like some middle east country with nothing to lose, no offense.
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> we're on different political sides, not good vs evil One of the sides runs a series of concentration camps. Sells organs from political prisoners, etc. But yes, I suppose it's just politics. Personally, I think genocide is slightly evil, but feel free to disagree.
That's another political campaign, run by a Washington based agency, look that up, they are not even trying to hide that. If, I mean If, China is evil, wouldn't that make any country not declaring war to China evil too?
Independent media across the globe and across political spectrums have reported that China has locked away >= 1M people in concentration camps.
Claiming that the Uyghur genocide is made up is just trolling. These things have been documented for years.
And the Uyghur is not the only minority to be persecuted.
Tell me who is the Dalai Lama working for?
> wouldn't that make any country not declaring war to China evil too?
I think you'll have to ask a philosopher, if evil is a transitive property :)
But my two cents is
(1) NO!
(2) War is not the solution.
Honestly, war is very rarely a good solution. Sanctions a political pressure might be better tools.
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> what make you think China will "cut off the world" IF that happens? You think leading US chip designers would send their designs to China? The well organized state of industrial espionage by China, is a pretty good reason this won't happen. Furthermore, the rest of the world would be forced to embargo anything related to Taiwan.
Yeah, US tried to use politics to ban Chinese 5G equipments, from recent news, I don't think that's going very well.
The reason advanced chip factories are located in China is that they are expensive and Chinese authorities can't be trusted.
Adding to that is that sending your chip designs to China, is a sure way to get them stolen.
Lots of companies don't sell the latest tech in China. And don't manufacture in china because their designs would be stolen. This is not a problem for cheap manufacturing, but for high tech stuff it might be...