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Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by rasz »

kunagi7 wrote: post #228
rasz wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fullscreen takes ~1 second in Vivaldi. Closing a Tab takes 300-1000ms. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uCA2qIIG1M

Try the same test with Vivaldi 3.7, 3.8 or 4.0... They've optimized the browser interactions quite dramatically so it's much faster than the video shows. But... It's still slower than Chromium's UI.

Vivaldi UI got significantly faster exactly two times from product inception. First time was a random Taiwanese hacker reverse engineering it, noticing they were resizing _all background tabs_ every time you resized browser window, and sending them a patch https://github.com/WillyYu/vivaldi_1.7. The second time Vivaldi themselves speed up Tab open operation, and only this one operation. "tabs open twice as fast. increasing speed up to 2x" sounds impressive until you measure 400-500ms instead of previous 700-900ms, versus ~16ms in Chrome (one screen refresh).

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by starik36 »

rasz wrote: post #273
starik36 wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If memory serves, they removed the user agent because one of the Google properties was serving it substandard HTML/JS even though they use the Chromium engine.

Think about it for a second. They removed the very most important metric for a product selling content leads and placement (search bar default bookmarks, placement on the start page) because _one_ website had a bug?

They removed it because they claimed Google was sending substandard markup on purpose.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by ols »

Aa9C4xPz43Gg7k6 wrote: post #255
ols wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They licensed the browser for devices like set-top boxes and similar devices. There was also money coming from Google (for using it as a default search engine). I guess they had also some business model built around Opera Mini and relations with mobile providers.

Did you say that desktop should be subsidized by non-desktop browsers?

I didn't say it should, I just summarized what Opera did.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by lostmsu »

keithnz wrote: post #190
apocolyps6 wrote: post #188

I really want to like Vivaldi. It's the only browser (afaik) that supports tabs on the side. Right now I use "Tree Style Tabs" on Firefox with some custom CSS to get rid of the original tab bar. Unfortunately I get a massive delay when fullscreening youtube videos in Vivaldi. The video first maximizes to the left half of my screen, and only then expands to the whole thing. Sadly a dealbreaker. FWIW its a little faste…

edge supports vertical tabs

I can't use Edge for one stupid simple reason: Ctrl+Tab can not be made to cycle tabs in most recent use order, only in the order tabs are displayed. It is especially weird considering Alt-Tab in Windows does most recent.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by nnwright »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #35
oblio wrote: post #3

Vivaldi Mail? That took a while :-D Vivaldi is developed by a team created by the former Opera founder and CEO. Vivaldi kind of tries to re-create the spirit of Opera, but I think it's going to be too hard to do it. For those who didn't use it, Opera was first a paid browser (which limited its reach), then an ad-supported browser (which again limited its reach). It then finally became a free browser but by then it wa…

Loved Opera back in the day. It had "page specific settings" that would let me allow to set HTTP/Socks5 proxies on a per-page setting - today you cannot even set a proxy anymore without changing your system settings (not browser settings). If anyone asks, I used this heavily to bypass country blocks/redirects on a per-page level and also with privoxy on some privacy invading sites.

And don't forget the ability to run a web server from within the browser. Opera was sometimes buggy, but it was really the first "browser as an operating system".

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by forgotpwd16 »

oblio wrote: post #3

Vivaldi Mail? That took a while :-D Vivaldi is developed by a team created by the former Opera founder and CEO. Vivaldi kind of tries to re-create the spirit of Opera, but I think it's going to be too hard to do it. For those who didn't use it, Opera was first a paid browser (which limited its reach), then an ad-supported browser (which again limited its reach). It then finally became a free browser but by then it wa…

>It then finally became a free browser

Clarifying it became a freeware browser which even after the end of its life remained closed source.

>but by then it was too late

It was the third most popular browser in the pre-Chrome era after IE and Firefox.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by Siira »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #35
oblio wrote: post #3

Vivaldi Mail? That took a while :-D Vivaldi is developed by a team created by the former Opera founder and CEO. Vivaldi kind of tries to re-create the spirit of Opera, but I think it's going to be too hard to do it. For those who didn't use it, Opera was first a paid browser (which limited its reach), then an ad-supported browser (which again limited its reach). It then finally became a free browser but by then it wa…

Loved Opera back in the day. It had "page specific settings" that would let me allow to set HTTP/Socks5 proxies on a per-page setting - today you cannot even set a proxy anymore without changing your system settings (not browser settings). If anyone asks, I used this heavily to bypass country blocks/redirects on a per-page level and also with privoxy on some privacy invading sites.

You can do some basic routing using the domain name or the IP via an advanced proxy, such as v2ray. Shadowrocket on iOS also supports this.
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