Slightly off topic, but are there any users here who tried both Vivaldi and Brave? Which one did you keep and why?
Vivaldi 4.0
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Re: Vivaldi 4.0
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Firefox: https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment_b4JWi49tKJUfE8oOvx... Opera: https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment_Rn6fiEoSZpDpNfvzIj... Vivaldi: https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment_1KXF2VcFzD3BIAFVIJ...
Yep.
The worst part about it is not just that its slow, but how slow it is for _what it is_. Its just a SPAN being dragged thru the list of SPAN elements, You have to be very talented to make that stutter.
Re: Vivaldi 4.0
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Amount of years old bugs with zero activity while they keep working on new features. Opera/Vivaldi CEO is really adamant about hiding both staff and user counts. Vivaldi even removed itself from User Agent string.
If memory serves, they removed the user agent because one of the Google properties was serving it substandard HTML/JS even though they use the Chromium engine.
Think about it for a second. They removed the very most important metric for a product selling content leads and placement (search bar default bookmarks, placement on the start page) because _one_ website had a bug?
Re: Vivaldi 4.0
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If you ever get curious how can UI be so slow, after all "its just js, js is fast", here is how they handle closing browser Tabs currently: https://www.reddit.com/r/vivaldibrowser/comments/nrasof/fix_... tldr: Tab bar is just a DIV full of SPANs, one SPAN per Tab. Pages are in a list of DIVs containing iframes. Switching a Tab is a simple process of moving "active" class from one SPAN to another and changing style of…
I always thought they're slow because of JavaScript, but not because of crappy code! That actually explains a lot. It would be interesting to know if they lose a lot of users because of slowness, but since it hasn't been fixed, I guess they don't?
Internally they might even believe Vivaldi is FAST (capital letters) https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-fires-up-performance-2/
Every bit of speed feedback is met with /impossibru, works great here/ from the staff.
Re: Vivaldi 4.0
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I guess I had it good, I was using the Windows and Linux Opera versions. The Windows version was always solid.
I used it exclusively for about a year (iirc) on Linux and had only some minor crashes. When they switched to Chromium I switched to Firefox and never had a single crash since. (It's not only luck, I disable all the feature-creep I know of in about:config)
do you possibly have a list of those to share please?
Re: Vivaldi 4.0
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I used it exclusively for about a year (iirc) on Linux and had only some minor crashes. When they switched to Chromium I switched to Firefox and never had a single crash since. (It's not only luck, I disable all the feature-creep I know of in about:config)
do you possibly have a list of those to share please?
That list would be very long :D
If you have some time you can look through:
- all the .enabled entrys in
- all the .disabled entrys
Re: Vivaldi 4.0
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If you want to use a different engine, there's a plethora of Webkit2gtk-based browsers to choose from. GNOME Web (aka Epiphany) and Eolie are two good options for a basic experience; vimb, Luakit, and Nyxt are more advanced options.
I mean I just use Firefox. Unless you mean you can use those engines within Vivaldi?
I assumed the context was alternatives to the "big four", excluding anything Blink-based.
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If WebGL and WebRTC are causing bluescreens, that is probably a GPU driver bug (though I realize that users don't care whose fault a crash is). If you have steps to reproduce, even if not 100% reliable, you can file a Firefox bug in Bugzilla. Mozilla has contacts at Microsoft and can pass along the bug.
Yeah, no user application should cause a blue screen of death or kernel panic under normal circumstances, unless it is either a bug or they're messing with something from the kernel (but in this last case, you generally need to run the program with high privilege anyway).
This is a distant ideal with today's GPU drivers. Browsers go to heroic lengths to rewrite graphics API calls and recompile potentially hostile code originating from WebGL to avoid tipping over crashy GPU drivers.
What normally happens with native GPU intensive apps is that devs change their code to work around driver and OS crashes, and if the app becomes popular, GPU vendors will react to frequent crashes from that app with driver fixes.
Re: Vivaldi 4.0
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It is otherwise impossible for a small company to provide free email.
What you mean is free email that (supposedly) delivers to hotmail? I could pass out email addresses to everyone on my floor and it wouldn't cost me a dime.
Free email as in the sense of email service like hotmail or gmail, not an email client.
Re: Vivaldi 4.0
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My company does this too. Try installing Firefox in a nonstandard location, that fixed it for me. Now I enjoy regex search, unlock origin and tampermonkey and have little more peace of mind.
>regex search Meaning search over within browser window i.e. “Find in Page”?
No. Find in page is dumb text match. I use an extension that let's me construct full regular expressions to search through the page. Comes very handy from time to time.