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An Asian Uber Driver Was Attacked by a Mob. Then YouTube Took Down His Video

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> It can only mean one thing, the elephant in the room, black-on-asian violence Is there anywhere I can read about this elephant in the room? I'm not sure why the label is important here; is the implication that black people are ideologically motivated to attack Asians? Are you sure this was a hate crime (the driver was attacked because was Asian) or a crime of oppurtunity (the driver was attacked because he was an e…

The problem is that the BLM movement is unnecessarily built on an idealized view of black people. This is neither useful nor essential but many people (many of them white) feel better and more entitled with this idealized narrative. It's also a taboo to mention that it's not just white corporations f'ing over African people but that they are actually doing business with local criminals and those are the ones actually…

>Black people sold other black people to white people.

Slavery was banned in the major kingdoms in Africa, the slave trading minority were empowered, funded, and armed by foreigner traders. They were able to take control of a large portion of the continent this way.

Just like opium trading was banned in China, the drug trading minority were empowered, funded, and armed by foreigner traders...etc

Much of the 'slavery' in Africa was actually mislabeled, it is better described as 'human adoption'. These so called slaves lived and ate in the same house as 'owners', had wives/children (sometimes more than the 'owner'), were not forced to work, and would intermarry with the adoptive family freely. Many rose to prominence and wielded tremendous power/influence in the families/communities/tribes they were adopted into. This form of 'adoption' (which includes adults) is still common in war torn countries in Africa where families are broken apart and family members lost prematurely.

In America, the modern day equivalent would be going to a homeless tent city, moving some of the individuals into your home and sharing resources.

Chattel slavery was considered abhorrent and only arrived in certain parts of the continent after a certain point.

There were also POWs that were treated poorly and initially they were the people sold to foreign traders... preferable to leaving enemies of a tribe in jail, which posed a security risk and caused many other problems.

"The black people sold black people" line is popular in the US because it sidesteps the details and on some level freed slave owners and their descendants from moral/social burden and guilt. This retort was/is also useful in denying the case for reparations when African Americans raised/raise it.

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Because most people who use that rhetoric will always imply the disparity exists because of genetic disposition rather than a social one. The logic tree goes from "black people commit a lot of violent crime" to "black people are dangerous" (then from there to other various racist tropes), while ignoring the mountain of other socioeconmic issues. Consider this, if I told you Koreans only make 1% of Japan but they make…

Would you say that your Korean example is an apt comparison to 13/52? Most people here recognize the trope about lies, lies and statistics and it feels like it now. In a more practical sense, does this statistic matter to an individual on a dark night? Will I fear being called racist as I walk down South Side Chicago on a dark night or 13/52? The choice here is not a choice at all.

Since the Yakuza is only around 10% Ethnically Korean its a bad comparison. Ethnic Koreans are over represented though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakuza#:~:text=According%20to%...

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> It can only mean one thing, the elephant in the room, black-on-asian violence Is there anywhere I can read about this elephant in the room? I'm not sure why the label is important here; is the implication that black people are ideologically motivated to attack Asians? Are you sure this was a hate crime (the driver was attacked because was Asian) or a crime of oppurtunity (the driver was attacked because he was an e…

The problem is that the BLM movement is unnecessarily built on an idealized view of black people. This is neither useful nor essential but many people (many of them white) feel better and more entitled with this idealized narrative. It's also a taboo to mention that it's not just white corporations f'ing over African people but that they are actually doing business with local criminals and those are the ones actually…

> The problem is that the BLM movement is unnecessarily built on an idealized view of black people.

No, its not. At all. (It includes people which hold such views, and excludes some part of the other extreme, but that’s true of any organization less hostile to Blacks than the general society.)

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https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ling+ling+boppin&t=fpas&ia=web … returns plenty of results. And hip-hop is a subculture of pop culture that is dominated by and mostly caters to young black people. Let’s assume the best of each other here on HN and not accuse people of making things up.

> And hip-hop is a subculture of pop culture that is dominated by and mostly caters to young black people. It's not, and thats why I am pressing this point. Billboards top 5 artists of last year were all hip hop[1]. Saying hip hop only caters to black people is like saying Soccer caters to the british. There is no way such a tiny demographic could drive international recognition for the medium. Next the results you p…

Post Malone, The Weeknd, Drake ... Those are all commercial pop singers, they are associated with hip hop culture in the same sense that Sum41 or Blink182 is associated with punk culture.

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Why is it wrong? Well for one thing, it skates too close to implying direct causation between skin colour and a propensity to engage in violence, when there's a far more obvious line of indirect causation: skin colour –> poverty –> propensity to engage in violence. The link between skin colour and poverty is undeniable—it's right there in the aftermath of slavery and Government-sanctioned racism in the decades hence.…

It's not poverty or skin color that's the issue. It's the culture that encourages violence, promiscuity (attack on the nuclear family) and unaccountability. Other groups, especially first generation immigrants, manage to rise above the challenges of poverty and skin color. I am not only talking about Asians, but black Africans who immigrated in the US recently. Totally different culture, a much better outcome.

Sorry, but all of that is media narrative. You’ve been spending too much time consuming other people’s opinions.

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post #157

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if you look at the polling data, more minorities voted for the Republicans during 2020 than any time in the last forty years. The idea that Trump stirred up racial hate is not established in the broader community. and there are plenty of examples of the left using racial sensitivities to drive politician opinion and support, going as far as making up fake racial attacks (aka hate hoaxes). oddly, these are rarely deno…

You aren't wrong about this, and to boot, I just got back from a week and a half with my in-laws, who are Filipino-Americans. They are pretty rabid Trump supporters, probably not unrelated to the fact that my wife's family are universally successful, extremely wealthy, entrepreneurs. They live in Atlanta, and therefore the topic of the massage parlor shooting came up. The refrain I kept hearing from my wife's uncle,…

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post #157

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if you look at the polling data, more minorities voted for the Republicans during 2020 than any time in the last forty years. The idea that Trump stirred up racial hate is not established in the broader community. and there are plenty of examples of the left using racial sensitivities to drive politician opinion and support, going as far as making up fake racial attacks (aka hate hoaxes). oddly, these are rarely deno…

You aren't wrong about this, and to boot, I just got back from a week and a half with my in-laws, who are Filipino-Americans. They are pretty rabid Trump supporters, probably not unrelated to the fact that my wife's family are universally successful, extremely wealthy, entrepreneurs. They live in Atlanta, and therefore the topic of the massage parlor shooting came up. The refrain I kept hearing from my wife's uncle,…

As I said,

White liberals are the white supremacists dictating to minorities what they ought to believe.

Re: An Asian Uber Driver Was Attacked by a Mob. Then YouTube Took Down His Video

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post #161

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You aren't wrong about this, and to boot, I just got back from a week and a half with my in-laws, who are Filipino-Americans. They are pretty rabid Trump supporters, probably not unrelated to the fact that my wife's family are universally successful, extremely wealthy, entrepreneurs. They live in Atlanta, and therefore the topic of the massage parlor shooting came up. The refrain I kept hearing from my wife's uncle,…

As I said, White liberals are the white supremacists dictating to minorities what they ought to believe.

They're trying to convince others of what they believe is true. Calling that 'supremacist' is quite a stretch.

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People said the same thing about the Asian spa attacks. And then the perp wasn’t black. Sometimes the race just isn’t mentioned, not a grand conspiracy.

It was though. CNN had a big capital letters headline with white supremacy on it.

Also the shooting in Cali today. No one is talking about race. Let’s see what race he ends up being.

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I will get downvoted and flagged for sharing this context, but here it is anyways Silicon Valley is predominated by and attracts people who are left leaning. This ideology carries with it a narrative that there is an oppressed group and a oppressing group. In America, the form this narrative takes is that non-whites are oppressed by white supremacy. There is a notion that Asians are a “model minority” who fare better…

Creating an anti-white narrative is an important part of very-far-left advocates, which is why the term POC (Person of Color) was created. ...to ensure that minorities that are not black are supportive of movements like BLM. Reinforcing a narrative of white-supremacy is a key part of that strategy.

Australia is where Murdoch honed his craft before coming to the US. What makes you so sure that the anti white narrative you perceive is genuinely a left creation, and not a media figment to keep everyone furiously engaged with media. In my years in the US I spent time with Oakland anarchists and Texan republicans, and in neither place met the mindless automaton monsters the other side loathed. Murdoch always amplified and distorted to generate fear and disgust. There’s no shortage of idiots ready to talk stupid, or good people who can be edited to sound dumb and dangerous. Murdoch’s trick has always been to elevate these people as spokespeople, or representative of a wider group, and by doing so inflame. It doesn’t need to be part of a plan to rule the world, it could emerge just from a desire to capture viewer attention, but the end result is we focus on the stupidest things say as the thing that defines them and the cause they advocate, and as a result we are made shrill and unintelligible to each other. I try not to care if a BLM person says something stupid. I try not to care if an individual cop is not prepared to testify against a colleague, but the worst impulses human impulses in me really want to jump in and be inflamed, redirecting all my energy to the stupid and trivial, away from the collaboration and cooperation that actually solves problems
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