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nemothekid wrote: post #120
haram_masala wrote: post #114

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https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ling+ling+boppin&t=fpas&ia=web … returns plenty of results. And hip-hop is a subculture of pop culture that is dominated by and mostly caters to young black people. Let’s assume the best of each other here on HN and not accuse people of making things up.

> And hip-hop is a subculture of pop culture that is dominated by and mostly caters to young black people. It's not, and thats why I am pressing this point. Billboards top 5 artists of last year were all hip hop[1]. Saying hip hop only caters to black people is like saying Soccer caters to the british. There is no way such a tiny demographic could drive international recognition for the medium. Next the results you p…

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Post by rswskg »

lambdasquirrel wrote: post #43
sol_invictus wrote: post #23

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Does black-on-asian violence have some kind of special status in comparison to black-on-any-other-skin-color violence?

Sure, let me try to explain. 1. Just like Asians have been the "model minority," Blacks are treated as the opposite. There's a lot of resentment going one way, and a lot of "what did you hit me for?" going the other way. 2. There's a lot of Asians (especially those from overseas) who don't understand the historical context, and aren't privy to empathy or compassion when they're being targeted. This dynamic isn't some…

This sounds dangerously like victim blaming.

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monkeycantype wrote: post #148
alephnan wrote: post #136

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I will get downvoted and flagged for sharing this context, but here it is anyways Silicon Valley is predominated by and attracts people who are left leaning. This ideology carries with it a narrative that there is an oppressed group and a oppressing group. In America, the form this narrative takes is that non-whites are oppressed by white supremacy. There is a notion that Asians are a “model minority” who fare better…

I lived in Australia during the years of media panic about Asian immigration, in the one of the areas with the greatest immigration from Asia. No one around me was panicking, our previously dull working class suburb was enriched and invigorated by the influx of new people. The hysteria came from people who didn't know immigrants personally but were perceiving immigration via the media, the nefarious hordes they feare…

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Post by bingbong70 »

sol_invictus wrote: post #66
lambdasquirrel wrote: post #43

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Sure, let me try to explain. 1. Just like Asians have been the "model minority," Blacks are treated as the opposite. There's a lot of resentment going one way, and a lot of "what did you hit me for?" going the other way. 2. There's a lot of Asians (especially those from overseas) who don't understand the historical context, and aren't privy to empathy or compassion when they're being targeted. This dynamic isn't some…

> 1. Just like Asians have been the "model minority," Blacks are treated as the opposite. There's a lot of resentment going one way, and a lot of "what did you hit me for?" going the other way. Not sure I'm understanding; are you saying asians are targeted by blacks because of some "race retaliation" scheme? > 4. There's a fair bit of talk these days in some of my circles that there's a divide-and-conquer thing going…

Western monopoly capital is aware that Afro-Asian unity is a potential economic threat. Dividing these communities is a priority to some... The narratives will be mainstreamed, any problems will be amplified, and I have a feeling covert elements have/will fund the conflict.

This also potentially results in the side effect of Asians (specifically Chinese) fleeing the country and/or siding with the majority against African liberation and civil rights issues. This is seen as a win-win scenario.

Anyone that's closely studied colonial history intuitively understands what might be going on and recognizes the pattern.

The structures capable of this kind of sabotage (that historically operated in Asia, Africa and South/Central America) didn't die off, they just became dormant/less-active temporarily.

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idrios wrote: post #129
JPKab wrote: post #88

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There's a fair bit of talk in some of my circles that all of this is a divide and conquer strategy by very wealthy people trying to make sure that people in the working classes stay divided based on race. The reality of this is that really really crappy people exist in all racial categories and they do really crappy things to other people especially if they are different than them. These crappy people are a minority…

Of all the comments in this very sensitive thread, this is the one I hope people see. I've noticed there are a number of divides like this.. minorities vs racists, women vs misogynists, foreigners vs xenophobes, millennials vs boomers, and trust vs distrust in technology/science. This list matches the fact that the labor pool is currently being diluted with increased participation of minorities and women in the workf…

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Post by fitzie »

tartoran wrote: post #139
JPKab wrote: post #118

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Can you please point to some of the recent attacks that you think were perpetrated by Trump supporters? I wasn't aware he had a large base in Oakland.

Several attacks on asians in the last couple of months in New York suggest that there is a problem related to Trump followers, fans, whatever you want to call them. Several were caught that’s why I drew this conclusion. If you remember Trump stirred a lot of hate in this country and while these sentiments didn’t start with Trump, he certainly brought them to the surface.

if you look at the polling data, more minorities voted for the Republicans during 2020 than any time in the last forty years. The idea that Trump stirred up racial hate is not established in the broader community. and there are plenty of examples of the left using racial sensitivities to drive politician opinion and support, going as far as making up fake racial attacks (aka hate hoaxes). oddly, these are rarely denounced for the hatred and fear they create.

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Post by dokem »

lmm wrote: post #78
xmprt wrote: post #32

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Let's not play minority Olympics. Everyone's problems are equally valid and by advocating for one you're advocating for all.

> Everyone's problems are equally valid and by advocating for one you're advocating for all. This is very much false. Many of the things done to treat one group's problems increase the problems for other groups (e.g. reduced policing in this case).

If you're going to disregard my problems I'm not going to listen to yours. How about that?

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Post by nemothekid »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #130
nemothekid wrote: post #86

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Because most people who use that rhetoric will always imply the disparity exists because of genetic disposition rather than a social one. The logic tree goes from "black people commit a lot of violent crime" to "black people are dangerous" (then from there to other various racist tropes), while ignoring the mountain of other socioeconmic issues. Consider this, if I told you Koreans only make 1% of Japan but they make…

Would you say that your Korean example is an apt comparison to 13/52? Most people here recognize the trope about lies, lies and statistics and it feels like it now. In a more practical sense, does this statistic matter to an individual on a dark night? Will I fear being called racist as I walk down South Side Chicago on a dark night or 13/52? The choice here is not a choice at all.

If I’m walking down Nishinari on a dark night will I fear being called a racist or 1/70?

Upon hearing that I don’t think anyone would focus on the statistic (that I’m implying Koreans are violent) and instead focus on the fact that it’s dangerous because is a high crime neighborhood.

Somehow you have missed the point entirely; it’s strange you bring up the lies, damn lies quote but continue to argue the statistic point. In a practical sense, if I were to travel to high crime area in Mexico or Belarus, would it be logical for me to not fear getting mugged because there are no black people? You’ve presented a false choice - you created a situation where you are a likely to mugged for socioeconomic factors and then have walked that back into carrying water for a racist trope.

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Post by JPKab »

idrios wrote: post #129
JPKab wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a fair bit of talk in some of my circles that all of this is a divide and conquer strategy by very wealthy people trying to make sure that people in the working classes stay divided based on race. The reality of this is that really really crappy people exist in all racial categories and they do really crappy things to other people especially if they are different than them. These crappy people are a minority…

Of all the comments in this very sensitive thread, this is the one I hope people see. I've noticed there are a number of divides like this.. minorities vs racists, women vs misogynists, foreigners vs xenophobes, millennials vs boomers, and trust vs distrust in technology/science. This list matches the fact that the labor pool is currently being diluted with increased participation of minorities and women in the workf…

The fact that this rather innocuous, totally uncontroversial statement is being downvoted is a pretty sad testament to this ideology and it's adherents.
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