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Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Re: Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Post by josephcsible »

sgift wrote: post #546
krankthat wrote: post #497

It's still unclear whether or not masks helped reduce the spread of COVID-19. https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Policy_Research > The Swiss Policy Research site has been criticized for spreading conspiracy theories including claims that QAnon was a psyop of the FBI.[5] and theories relating to the COVID-19 pandemic.[2][6] German public broadcasterTagesschau calls SPR a propaganda tool[7] and Media Bias/Fact Check says the site is "a Moderate Conspiracy website based on the promotion of unpro…

Your comment seems to be a textbook example of an ad hominem.

Re: Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Post by josephcsible »

gdubs wrote: post #737

My biggest question right now is with my kids who are 7 and under. But also just kids in general. Mainly I’m wondering what kind of evolutionary pressure will be put onto the virus in a population where young children represent a larger and larger target for the virus as adults become vaccinated. Not fear-mongering. It just seems like we still don’t have a good explanation of why kids have (mostly) been spared, and s…

> low risk != low risk

What does this mean?

Re: Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Post by [deleted] »

NoblePublius wrote: post #660
dreamcompiler wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is that now there's no way to tell whether the unmasked person next to you is vaccinated and safe or unvaccinated and dangerous.

There is no statement from any Federal official that says anything like this.

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Re: Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Post by HDMI_Cable »

josephcsible wrote: post #841
sgift wrote: post #546

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Policy_Research > The Swiss Policy Research site has been criticized for spreading conspiracy theories including claims that QAnon was a psyop of the FBI.[5] and theories relating to the COVID-19 pandemic.[2][6] German public broadcasterTagesschau calls SPR a propaganda tool[7] and Media Bias/Fact Check says the site is "a Moderate Conspiracy website based on the promotion of unpro…

Your comment seems to be a textbook example of an ad hominem.

An ad hominem would be attacking the person making the reply itself, not the agency reporting on the issue.

Re: Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Post by swiley »

nexuist wrote: post #311
thrwhizzle wrote: post #240

For some people the goalposts are moving faster than the speed of light. The goal was to flatten the curve. Remember that? Flatten. The. Curve. Is the curve not flat? How much flatter do you want it to be before returning to normal life? Do you want literally 0.000% risk?

There is a worryingly large constituency, mostly on Twitter, who believe that any unjust death at all is damning evidence that all of our institutions and economic systems must be destroyed and rebuilt. Of course unjust death is tragic, but it's not an excuse to throw out all of society and start over again. I think many of these people saw mask mandates as that "rebuilding society" step, and to get rid of it so quic…

I wish these people would go after cars, they're much worse and they seem to be effective at changing policy.

Re: Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Post by dguaraglia »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #829
dguaraglia wrote: post #815

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no idea what happens in Belgium, but nothing like that happens here in the US. They barely ask people to wear a goddamn mask, and they are all up in arms about it.

Have witnessed Chipotle’s staff scream at a construction worker because he was using a tshirt as a face covering. “That’s not approved!! Get out of here!” Different things are happening

So, nothing like Belgium then, and exactly what I described: people being asked to wear a mask and not doing it.

I don’t know the circumstances of the situation you mention, but it hardly qualifies as security theatre. Also, I doubt they screamed ‘not approved’ but I guess no anti-mask narrative sounds dire enough without a little exaggeration.

Re: Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Post by dguaraglia »

bwship wrote: post #824
_euac wrote: post #817

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's almost a year between the time we originally went into lockdown to 'flatten the curve' and the time a significant part of the population got vaccinated. You can't pretend that not using a mask now - once someone is vaccinated - is the same as not using a mask back then.

I didn't wear one then, and don't wear one now.

So basically what you are saying is that you drew your conclusion back then - who knows based on what data - and you are so set in your ways, there’s nothing that will change your mind.

Sounds like a super healthy way to approach life.

Re: Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Post by fuzxi »

teachingassist wrote: post #591
livinginfear wrote: post #221

I think it's worth noting that among the demographics that frequent this site there is ostensibly a deep distrust and skepticism of the American government on matters of surveillance, and law enforcement. Yet simultaneously there is ostensibly a high degree of trust in the motives and competency of the American government when it comes to COVID. There's been multiple threads lately, including one that is on the front…

A doctor friend of mine told me, at the start of the pandemic, that they found it important to correctly follow Public Health advice whether or not they (an expert) agreed with all of it. The importance of following the principles for public health is greater than the importance of the advice being unbiasedly perfect at every moment.

"Do what you're told to do, critical thinking is bad for your health." LOL
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