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Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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And put your content where? What should this piano teacher do? This is partially the fault of YouTube/Google, but also copyright law in general. It's broken. This community, right here, could collaborate and force changes upon the powers that be. Boycotting Google and YouTube isn't going to do it though.

> And put your content where? Vimeo? Peertube? Facebook? Self hosted website? Anywhere?

Facebook? I hope you're kidding

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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Any creator with established audience can bring those people to alternative platform, e.g., Peertube. Start from posting videos on both platforms and advertise the other one. Then post videos on Peertube earlier .

That will only work for a select group of viewers. Waiting a day or even a week isn’t a huge deal for me as a consumer, and I’m familiar with it because Patreon people often put their videos up in patreon earlier than their YouTube ones.

My understanding gained from watching various kickstarters and patreons is that creators don't need a million views, they need a few thousand engaged fans and they can be self sufficient at that point.

The question, always, is what's the alternative? Rumble?

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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Summary for those that don’t want to watch the video : - Pianist creates YouTube video demonstrating how to play Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata - part of this video includes her playing Moonlight Sonata (of course) - YouTube has a new ‘feature’ that scans submitted videos prior to publication to identify potentially copyrighted material - her video is found to include copyrighted material. She is certain this is a mist…

It seems that this entire fiasco can be fixed by simply having a media streaming platform which is hosted in a jurisdiction which doesn't recognize 'intellectual' property. Why has no such thing emerged?

ISIL? I guess when you have a culture that totally shuns the existing international framework they're unlikely to be able to or interested in competing with youtube.

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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Being able to access real people for support should be a mandatory requirement for big corporations offering services to the public directly.

> Being able to access real people for support should be a mandatory requirement. Being able to appeal an automated decision to a real person is a mandatory requirement under the GDPR. https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/refo...

I didn't know this. Thank you. I hope FB finally allows me to appeal against the block they have placed on my domain on sharing debugger citing "community guidelines".

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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I don't think I'm ever going to approve of any sort of automated copyright claim system but if Google wanted to make it one bit fair, they should use the same concept of three strikes against the accounts that make false claims and ban them.

Too easy for bad actors to create multiple accounts or game this system. I think this would end up hurting genuine claimants of actual pirated works more that it would help the wrongly accused.

If you're a genuine claimant, you have little to worry about because you don't make false claims.

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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> from PeerTube themselves on the PeerTube.com PeerTube.com is not "PeerTube themselves". This is one of the servers, not the best one. This is the official PeerTube website: https://joinpeertube.org . It will show search results on many servers. > The moment the service asks me to think about what server is hosting it is the moment I don't care enough to jump through those hoops. You only choose your server once, li…

I corrected the URL in my post. I was on JoinPeertube.org and watched the, "What is PeerTube?" video that is embedded in that page. If I watched it again, it might not buffer at all. Maybe it was a bad moment. But I consume a lot of content on YouTube and I can't remember the last time a video buffered a single time--let alone several times in the first 30 seconds. I'm honestly done with this ridiculous strawman abou…

> I'll stand behind that being the single biggest reason that PeerTube simply cannot be a platform to rival YouTube.

Well, I would count the greens first and then for rival, a joke. They can never share the love alphabet can share with the tube. You have to give money to take money.

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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Actually I doubt that you can avoid abusing current copyright laws. Also because there is no such "right" in nature. If you wish monopoly call it for what it is and have laws in accordance. Such "right" shouldn't exist in the first place or at least in the current form. Copy process is the way people learn and progress. Copy process is essential for spreading knowledge and development. When you learn you copy. When y…

Copyright is a way to encourage the production of new culture. Even if it is abused it doesn't remove all of its merits. Countries with weak copyright laws do produce or export content and are barely heard of and the reason why is not hard to deduce: all their top talents can't live out of what they produce and therefore go elsewhere. If you really want to go the deconstruction route, laws are unnatural but murder an…

>Copyright is a way to encourage the production of new culture.

Perhaps it just was? Things evolved. Digital tools now make everyone face the law that was invented for publishers while not every person is even aware about publishing nor wish to deal with it.

People simply try to express themselves and punished for that like they are criminals. I do not think this is a way to encourage the production of new culture today.

From encouraging tool in the past as it perhaps was today it become a tool for opression of any form of self-expression because the environment has changed. Now it does exactly the opposite of what it suppose to do.

>Now if you excuse me I have to take care of my collection of scalps While you take care of your collection of scalps please notice how valuable such activity was back then and how useless it is now.

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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That’s why we need a regulation change to make it so that you can’t outcompete by being unethical.

I don't think it's viable, but I welcome any attempts to actually imagine how such regulation might work, what would it consist of.

I definitely don’t have a general case solution. A solution for this case would be something like “a provider of video hosting services is not allowed to take down videos automatically without having a human review each request.”

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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It's not reasonable to screw innocent people over.

It's reasonable for a for-profit company that has a monopoly.

No monopoly necessary to make this commercially reasonable stance to take.

(And, there's no monopoly situation here in any case.)

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