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Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]
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Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]
#312Summary for those that don’t want to watch the video : - Pianist creates YouTube video demonstrating how to play Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata - part of this video includes her playing Moonlight Sonata (of course) - YouTube has a new ‘feature’ that scans submitted videos prior to publication to identify potentially copyrighted material - her video is found to include copyrighted material. She is certain this is a mist…
It seems that this entire fiasco can be fixed by simply having a media streaming platform which is hosted in a jurisdiction which doesn't recognize 'intellectual' property. Why has no such thing emerged?
Such a jurisdiction does not exist. See Berne Convention, Rome Convention/PPPPBO, TRIPS, WCT, WPPT.
Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]
#313Earlier quoted context omitted.
IMO the biggest issue with all this is the lack of a suitable appeals process, handled by humans. Would such a process be expensive? Yes, but you can't have it both ways, enabling copyright holders to lodge spurious claims at will, and not allow content creators - who the entire platform is built on! - to disclaim them. Would such a process be expensive? Yes, of course - but YouTube can very well afford it.
I think what should happen is this: Step 1: Someone files a copyright claim (or perhaps this is done automatically). This is free. Step 2: Someone disputes the claim. This is also free, and automatically restores the video. Step 3: The filer can re-submit the claim but they have to post a bond for the price of a professional manual review by a trained copyright lawyer; maybe $1000. Step 4: If the video owner can re-d…
Would this not allow companies with deep pockets to continue to abuse the smaller channels who might not have $1000 lying around to put in escrow on the off chance of losing the $1000 just because some lawyer somewhere made a bad decision? Or they just get their video removed because they dont have $1000 to begin with.
Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]
#314Earlier quoted context omitted.
1) Feed a computer with MIDI files of public domain music and render it as audio 2) Upload to YouTube 3) File copyright dispute to YouTube for any (future?) uploaded video which contains the music which used to be in the public domain 4) Have Google reject the videos 5) Create a site or an app which allows you to license that public domain music for a fee. 6) Notify YouTube who has licensed this public domain music.…
There are disputes over "white noise" videos so it is already as bad as it gets.
What would be worse: whoever holding the rights to John Cage’s “4’33” filing complaints against movies without background music, claiming that they have copyrighted background music.
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#315Earlier quoted context omitted.
Better terms for copyright include "imaginary property" and "bourgeoise pseudocapital." Not only does copyright hinder creativity and infringe upon your natural right to copy, but it doesn't even benefit artists so much as companies who pay them a pittance while wielding the law as a cudgel to protect their imaginary fiefdom. The world needs less ownership, not more.
People will complain about copyright precisely until they have some creative work of theirs sold by someone else. Professional authors cannot exist without copyright.
I complain about copyright precisely because I cannot even show my creative work. And if I'll try to upload it anywhere where people are then I will be stripped off any of my "rights" in that very moment. So how copyright helps in that case?
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#316I've already stated this many times, I'll state it again. Get your shit out of YouTube and any other Google product. Google is a dumb, faceless, fully automated company only interested in extracting as much data as possible from its users, force them to swallow as many ads as possible, all without caring about listening to them (both consumers and creators), under the faulty assumption that they're too big for users…
> The problem is: who is accountable for these mistakes? Who shall I reach out to if Google's foggy algorithms make a mistake? And, in the case of educators and creators who actually do that for a job, who will compensate them for the revenue they have lost because of algorithmic errors?
Given that we've had to endure this nonsense for more years than I can count now, and Google and other companies refuse to budge, it sounds like a great opportunity for legislation to enumerate users' rights in situations like this, and to enumerate penalties should companies like Google violate them.
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#317Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]
#318Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with your assessment of Google; however, what is a reasonable alternative for a content creator who wants to publish their videos and be able to build an audience? You kinda have to go where the audience will be if you don't already have one and I'm not aware of any video discovery platforms with anywhere near the reach of YouTube. I've managed to get out of Google products almost entirely--YouTube remains th…
> what is a reasonable alternative for a content creator..? Insurance? I'm only half kidding. No individual youtuber has the deep pockets to stir the slumbering Googlebeast enough to get it to notice and correct its mistake, but all youtubers certainly do. Conversely, perhaps there's a market for a we-only-get-paid-if-we-win lawyers to spring up here, as they have with workplace injuries and such. Youtube's resolutio…
Or join the youtube creators union https://fairtube.info/
Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]
#319Earlier quoted context omitted.
He is referring to modern codecs, not MP3. MP3 isn't widely used anymore. Modern codecs don't encode noise - they remove it during decoding and then add back artificial "comfort noise" when decoding, e.g. for film grain or background noise in voice calls.
Got a source for the current usage of MP3?
What services do you know of that use MP3?
Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]
#320I've already stated this many times, I'll state it again. Get your shit out of YouTube and any other Google product. Google is a dumb, faceless, fully automated company only interested in extracting as much data as possible from its users, force them to swallow as many ads as possible, all without caring about listening to them (both consumers and creators), under the faulty assumption that they're too big for users…
And put your content where? What should this piano teacher do?
This is partially the fault of YouTube/Google, but also copyright law in general. It's broken.
This community, right here, could collaborate and force changes upon the powers that be. Boycotting Google and YouTube isn't going to do it though.