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Post by tjs8rj »

nonplussed wrote: post #180
duxup wrote: post #120

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Reddit administration seems pretty ad hoc, undisciplined, at times weirdly disconnected from the community, and uncoordinated as it could possibly be. Then again so are all its subreddits, and the volunteer mods are about as opaque and strange as the admins, with the added excuse that they're doing it for free. The fact that the ecosystem has survived seems more like happenstance.

It'd be interesting to see demographics on moderators. My perception is that they must skew young because who else has time to do all that work for free? Volunteer moderation is one of those things that must baffle economists. Here you have people putting in a lot of work for free for a profit seeking enterprise.

There’s an economic concept called “psychic profits”, and it encapsulates exactly those non monetary gains one gets from volunteering like power, recognition, respect, status, and so on

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Post by astrange »

newsclues wrote: post #375
darkhorse13 wrote: post #349

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It's seriously a shame you are being downvoted for this comment.

Odd, was it critical of Reddit or the appearance of being anti pornography (I’m just extremely anti child porn and other things like sex slavery/trafficking).

Sex trafficing is not a real thing. It's more common to be trafficed as a low-wage worker, sometimes partially with your own participation, eg as a servant or working at an extended family restaurant.

Sex trafficing is just something police like to bring up at press conferences when they arrest women for prostitution. Often they don't actually charge anyone with it though, it just sounds cool to say so they do it.

Re: Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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Post by cassalian »

Silhouette wrote: post #395
Rebelgecko wrote: post #285

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According to the r/UKpolitics moderator that got banned, one of their comments was manually edited multiple times (first to change the content of the comment, then to fix typos in previous edits)[1]. Reddit hasn't refuted this. From context I've seen elsewhere, my guess is that the mod posted the text of the Spectator article in its entirely as a comment on their submission. Then, someone edited out the sentence whic…

According to the r/UKpolitics moderator that got banned, one of their comments was manually edited multiple times (first to change the content of the comment, then to fix typos in previous edits)[1]. Reddit hasn't refuted this. It seems to me that the biggest problem with that specific situation, assuming the description is indeed correct, isn't that the admins of a forum have the power to edit content on their own s…

It appears that reddit prefers that people believe it is the original author's words when they edit someone's post:

> "I messed with the “f*** u/spez” comments, replacing "spez" with r/the_donald mods for about an hour," Huffman said, indicating that the only thing he secretly altered was the target of the insults.

https://www.theverge.com/2016/11/23/13739026/reddit-ceo-stev...

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Post by astrange »

mbesto wrote: post #386
irrational wrote: post #338

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Social contract? Seriously? Who in the world is using Reddit because they have confidence in it? That is insane. It's an anonymous black hole of posts and comments and come and go like dust in the wind and have no lasting permanence or value. It's not social. There is no contract. Nobody in their right mind should have confidence in Reddit or believe that anything on there is real or authentic.

> dust in the wind and have no lasting permanence or value You mean like the massive russian "troll farms" that have effectively coerced people into political beliefs, or places like /r/RedPill that have galvanized young males to be ant-feminine, or WSB where thousands of people have placed savings into Gamestop. Want me to go on? So yes there is most definitely a social contract. Just because you don't believe the i…

Has anyone been harmed by losing money in GameStop meme investing? It seems like everyone more or less got what they paid for in entertainment.

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Post by SamBam »

slowmovintarget wrote: post #325
filoleg wrote: post #264

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>If the Greens, Lib Dems, Reddit, or anyone else involved had chosen not to hire her, she could stir up outrage against them for gender discrimination We don't even need to hypothesize this specific "if", because that's exactly what she did[0] after being ousted from Green Party due to all the pedophilia-related concerns. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aimee_Challenor

In a rational world, that wouldn't have happened, but we seem to have lost our ability to say behavior A (which has supporting facts) is significantly worse than behavior B (which is alleged). Preying on children, or advocating for those who want to, is a significantly bigger problem than the _accusation_ of bias based on preference.

Except as I understand it her accusations didn't stick at all. Did anyone buy that it was gender/trans-discrimination? Certainly the party did not hire her back. So it seems as if, by this minor measure, the world can still be rational.

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Post by JxLS-cpgbe0 »

astrange wrote: post #452
newsclues wrote: post #375

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Odd, was it critical of Reddit or the appearance of being anti pornography (I’m just extremely anti child porn and other things like sex slavery/trafficking).

Sex trafficing is not a real thing. It's more common to be trafficed as a low-wage worker, sometimes partially with your own participation, eg as a servant or working at an extended family restaurant. Sex trafficing is just something police like to bring up at press conferences when they arrest women for prostitution. Often they don't actually charge anyone with it though, it just sounds cool to say so they do it.

> Sex trafficing [sic] is not a real thing

Human trafficking (for non-sexual exploitation), sex trafficking, and non-coerced criminalized sex work have differences; but they all are very real.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palermo_protocols

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victims_of_Trafficking_and_Vio...

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Post by fl0wenol »

duxup wrote: post #246
Blikkentrekker wrote: post #233

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This doesn't seem to be particularly different from H.N. , most other websites, or even the political leaders of many nations. More often than not, the man who seeks power is ill-suited to have it.

It's not entirely different, but at least in a democracy a politician still has to mingle with their party members / tries / does, maybe even try to get some votes. Admins, sub moderators, don't have to at all. Not that I think there's a way to force that, but the disconnect is still there. Agreed about the folks who want power. When I moderated a large forum and we picked new moderators we had a rule where anyone wh…

TBH it was one of the things I liked about Slashdot. Essentially everyone was thrown into a pool and was expected to moderate, but it was completely random. You also got thrown into a pool to meta-moderate. Those whose meta-moderation scores were good and didn't let the tokens expire too often were thrown into the moderation pool more often. It was pretty difficult to game without a lot of sock-puppet accounts.

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Post by fuzxi »

jefftk wrote: post #436
Rebelgecko wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to the r/UKpolitics moderator that got banned, one of their comments was manually edited multiple times (first to change the content of the comment, then to fix typos in previous edits)[1]. Reddit hasn't refuted this. From context I've seen elsewhere, my guess is that the mod posted the text of the Spectator article in its entirely as a comment on their submission. Then, someone edited out the sentence whic…

> first to change the content of the comment, then to fix typos in previous edits Does anyone have screenshots showing these various states?

Screenshots have no value here because they're so trivial to fake. A Wayback Machine archive would be much better.

Re: Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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Post by [deleted] »

ok123456 wrote: post #327
ryandrake wrote: post #26

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They can always just stop using Reddit. Digg went this way, too, and it ended badly for them.

People revolted against Digg because their redesign was a mess. Reddit's redesign is an equal disaster and viewing it on a phone is impossible because it employs dark patters to force you into an app. Yet, there's no proportional response in this case.

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