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Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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"photos on her phone" is pretty damning.

Oh wow, I completely missed that. Sorry! Regardless, during the trial photos of Aimee with the victim were discovered on Amiee's phone. Thanks for pointing that out. Yes of course, that's completely different. Does anyone know where to find more info about this? It's such a strange situation. EDIT: There are some details here: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/coventry-captive... though nothing about Aimee…

I'm sceptical about that detail because the UK is pretty zealous at paying attention to and prosecuting women believed to have been actively supporting the sex offences and there dont appear to have been any charges, or even any insinuations from the press.

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I agree, but a minor nitpick: Aimee was forced out not just for being connected to pedophiles, but also for lying about and/or endorsing them (among other issues). A massive failure of safeguarding from the Greens and Lib Dems, and now from Reddit. It's astonishing to me that a person like this can become an admin on a website used by millions of teenagers. We already know that admins can access private messages and…

It's astonishing to me that a person like this can become an admin on a website used by millions of teenagers Unfortunately not so astonishing, people like that are drawn to and commonly inhabit exactly the kinds of places you wouldn’t want them. There are some fairly recent public examples you could easily find.

Anyone that would seek power should not have power, and the best way to guard against that is to ensure accountability, objective based rules enforcement where an individuals subjective beliefs are not a factor

unfortunately all of these platforms focus almost exclusively on subjective "We know bad things when we see them" type of rules

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Tbf admin real names seem like quite a reasonable thing to include in such a regex (unless they're so common it's likely to be an accidental collision or publicly known) which is consistent with Reddit's explanation The allegation is that the name was only mentioned in the body of a linked (paywalled) article though...

> admin real names seem like quite a reasonable thing to include in such a regex (unless they're so common it's likely to be an accidental collision or publicly known ) which is consistent with Reddit's explanation The "publicly known" part is the key here. She is a public figure who held prominent political positions. She has her own wikipedia page. There were plenty of news articles featuring her name since forever…

The point was that the list of admins that could be 'doxxed' wouldn't include Alexis Ohanian or any admin that actually posts under their real name.

Of course in this instance it appears the opposite happened and nobody knew Challenor (a pretty obscure figure whose political career probably deserves the past tense) was involved with Reddit at all until the modding Streisanded it.

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What's the harm in such a pointless joke? It was silly, but it's not like the meme subreddit he did it to was a super serious one like AskHistorians is.

Would it be ok if Twitter employees secretly changed people's tweets without informing them?

Yes. You're the one who chose to use their platform to broadcast your words, if you don't believe they will do so with fidelity use a different platform. You're not paying or otherwise offering them anything in exchange for a guarantee of fidelity, nor are you under any obligation to use their service.

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This plugin redirects you to old.reddit automatically: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/old-reddit-redirec...

You don't need a plugin, just go to http://old.reddit.com/prefs , scroll to the bottom, and uncheck "Use new Reddit as my default experience"

on ALL of my alts?! Not to mention when I'm logged out. I'd rather click "install plugin" once.

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> Is there some sort of contract somewhere that says they won't edit messages and will maintain an audit trail? Legal contract? No. Social contract? Yes. > Otherwise, I think they are free and clear to do whatever they want to do with any subreddits, posts, or comments. I'm surprised this is where you went with your rationale. The parent was clearly saying that the intent of the communities is the ability for people…

Social contract? Seriously? Who in the world is using Reddit because they have confidence in it? That is insane. It's an anonymous black hole of posts and comments and come and go like dust in the wind and have no lasting permanence or value. It's not social. There is no contract. Nobody in their right mind should have confidence in Reddit or believe that anything on there is real or authentic.

> dust in the wind and have no lasting permanence or value

You mean like the massive russian "troll farms" that have effectively coerced people into political beliefs, or places like /r/RedPill that have galvanized young males to be ant-feminine, or WSB where thousands of people have placed savings into Gamestop. Want me to go on?

So yes there is most definitely a social contract. Just because you don't believe the information, doesn't mean others don't as well.

> It's not social. There is no contract.

You should probably read up on what "social contract" means: https://ethicsunwrapped.utexas.edu/glossary/social-contract-...

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The subreddits I frequent seem utterly unchanged. Reddit is a big place. I understand that people refer to some ambiguous cross-section of "Reddit" as a shared space we are all aware of and can generalize about. But I don't relate to that concept at all.

I recently retired (before this drama) a 12-year-old Reddit account with close to a million combined karma. This line, that individual subreddits defy any concept of Reddit identity, needs to stop. The overlaps between moderator groups and users, as well as the impact to ALL subreddits from decisions by the administrators, mean it is completely fair game to talk about Reddit as a singular entity. The notion that indi…

the policy decisions of admins that affect the overarching site are not to be discounted of course, but other than a few 'common' connected areas that are heavily frequented and interconnected by either content or more significantly shared users, the site is basically a giant platform for hosting community forums. You can set up your subreddit for whatever topic/niche and exist in those. There's no reason to see /r/all or anything of the major things if you're hanging out in the your followed subs - you are basically silo'd from any of this drama, roving outrage etc. It's just a large site hosting a bunch of discussion boards. The other use being 'on the pulse' of new link sharing and topics because of sheer number of users surfacing up new content. Which is what Digg was until the exodus (that was mainly about a revolt against a redesign, which threw Reddit, an almost dead site at the time, a huge bone and set us on a course to today)

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They never recovered from the Diggification. So weird to remember it from 2010 and think that it would eventually host the_donald and other white supremacy subreddits that sealed its Eternal September.

>the_donald and other white supremacy subreddits The Donald wasn't a white supremacist subreddit.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that instead of arguing in bad faith, you're just incredibly gullible.

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The new design collapses all responses below the second level (and then every two levels) while adding extreme amounts of visual distractions to gilded/awarded/... comments (personal opinion). This annoys me to no end and I presume the grandparent is referencing that.

> The new design collapses all responses below the second level (and then every two levels) this wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that you often have to follow a link to expand the tree, that you then have to back out of to get back to the main thread. I have 16GB of RAM and a 27" screen. I can handle expanding a tree of text inline.

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Re: Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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> admin real names seem like quite a reasonable thing to include in such a regex (unless they're so common it's likely to be an accidental collision or publicly known ) which is consistent with Reddit's explanation The "publicly known" part is the key here. She is a public figure who held prominent political positions. She has her own wikipedia page. There were plenty of news articles featuring her name since forever…

The point was that the list of admins that could be 'doxxed' wouldn't include Alexis Ohanian or any admin that actually posts under their real name. Of course in this instance it appears the opposite happened and nobody knew Challenor (a pretty obscure figure whose political career probably deserves the past tense) was involved with Reddit at all until the modding Streisanded it.

>The point was that the list of admins that could be 'doxxed' wouldn't include Alexis Ohanian or any admin that actually posts under their real name.

What? Alexis Ohanian doesn't post under his real name, he posts under u/kn0thing. And it isn't a recent thing, that has been his username from the very beginning.

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