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Re: Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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Post by Mediterraneo10 »

notJim wrote: post #251
Sebb767 wrote: post #45

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The new design collapses all responses below the second level (and then every two levels) while adding extreme amounts of visual distractions to gilded/awarded/... comments (personal opinion). This annoys me to no end and I presume the grandparent is referencing that.

> The new design collapses all responses below the second level I don't follow. I just opened a random comment thread, and counted comments being shown up to seven levels deep (which was the deepest comment.) Is the behavior you describe only if you're logged out or something?

Do you have the old Reddit UI saved in your preferences? If so, you might be seeing the site as it used to be, and not as it now is for the vast majority of users.

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Post by tomc1985 »

testfoobar wrote: post #65
BitwiseFool wrote: post #18

Reddit feels very Soviet lately. Everything is heavily manipulated and it seems like users are aware of that fact but are powerless to change anything.

I miss humor and authenticity from old reddit the most. E.g. the classic: "I also choose this guy's dead wife." or the AMA with the vacuum repair guy. These days just about any popular thread that I wander into, I see wide swaths of "deleted" comments. I'm sure they were deleted for many good and valid reasons. IMHO, reddit's aggressive moderation suppresses spontaneous comments and is off putting to lurkers. The wit…

I miss the free-for-all reddit where anything used to go.

I also miss when the youth of the time weren't so in favor of heavy-handed censorship. The current zeitgeist puts the CCP to shame.

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Post by phpnode »

filoleg wrote: post #305
notahacker wrote: post #261

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Tbf admin real names seem like quite a reasonable thing to include in such a regex (unless they're so common it's likely to be an accidental collision or publicly known) which is consistent with Reddit's explanation The allegation is that the name was only mentioned in the body of a linked (paywalled) article though...

> admin real names seem like quite a reasonable thing to include in such a regex (unless they're so common it's likely to be an accidental collision or publicly known ) which is consistent with Reddit's explanation The "publicly known" part is the key here. She is a public figure who held prominent political positions. She has her own wikipedia page. There were plenty of news articles featuring her name since forever…

Also, from the user[0] that posted the original Spectator article:

> Automation tends not to take five minutes, edit people's comments to remove publicly available information on public figures(in this case a passing one sentence mention that did not even mention reddit or admins), make typos on that edit, re-edit them again later to fix the typos and then permanently suspend posters with still no reply on their appeal after almost a day.

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/mbytxw/daily_me...

Re: Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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Post by xenihn »

irrational wrote: post #326
xenihn wrote: post #316

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You're missing the point. No one is saying that they're not legally allowed to do it. The issue here is that it's possible, and that it was done at least once.

What if it was done constantly all day long every day? How would that be any different than having been done once? This is reddit, the bastion of anonymous inanity.

That's possible and likely. It would obviously be worse.

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Post by MauranKilom »

fieryscribe wrote: post #269
robbyking wrote: post #70

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I moderate a reddit community with ~200k users, and if I didn't use strict filtering along with a slew of Automoderator rules I'd spend half of my day removing spam, shitposts, and submissions that break our posting rules. A few posts a day get caught by mistake, but it's a lot easier to free those posts than it is to remove the dozens of bad ones that would have made it through otherwise. I think it's at least plaus…

The post was removed after a few hours, not immediately. It was also removed because Challenor was referenced at the bottom of the article, not because of anything in the Reddit post itself

> It was also removed because Challenor was referenced at the bottom of the article, not because of anything in the Reddit post itself

I've seen that repeated a lot, but every time followed by a correction that said part of the article was quoted in the comment.

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Post by notahacker »

tobasq wrote: post #243
ineptech wrote: post #157

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You left out some context: he did that in a (failed) attempt at lulz. It was a long thread where (IMHO) he was fielding tough questions pretty frankly and honestly, as one might hope he would, but he ruined it by editing someone's post to troll them. In context, it was obvious that he did it, he wasn't trying to be sneaky. I'm not justifying it; obviously it was dumb, given that people are still using it to denigrate…

I can't imagine Twitter/Facebook/etc. actually changing what a user wrote, in any context. This does reveal something about Reddit and I would be less surprised to learn they are editing other posts.

On the flip side, administrators can and do directly edit user posts on a lot of web forums I've used, some of which make it more obvious than others. I think the Facebook/Twitter position is the more unusual one, and it's tied up with those platforms' obsessions with real names and verified identities...

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Post by shultays »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #52

Reddit has addressed the situation here, in a mealy mouthed sort of way: https://www.reddit.com/r/modsupport/comments/mbqgx2 However they seem to be denying the accusations that admins (possibly including the individual in question) were manually editing contents containing her name. This whole situation is incredibly bizarre to me. In the first place, why would reddit hire a 23 year old admin whose greatest accompli…

I remember related articles being flagged on HN as well. That is some very effective moderation tools

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Post by irrational »

mbesto wrote: post #328
irrational wrote: post #300

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>that Reddit employees have the ability to edit messages with no audit trail and no governance. Help me understand this. Reddit is a private company. Is there some sort of contract somewhere that says they won't edit messages and will maintain an audit trail? I mean, I might not like that they are doing it, but I'm also not paying a dime for Reddit (and I have all ads blocked, so they doubly aren't making any money o…

> Is there some sort of contract somewhere that says they won't edit messages and will maintain an audit trail? Legal contract? No. Social contract? Yes. > Otherwise, I think they are free and clear to do whatever they want to do with any subreddits, posts, or comments. I'm surprised this is where you went with your rationale. The parent was clearly saying that the intent of the communities is the ability for people…

Social contract? Seriously? Who in the world is using Reddit because they have confidence in it? That is insane. It's an anonymous black hole of posts and comments and come and go like dust in the wind and have no lasting permanence or value. It's not social. There is no contract. Nobody in their right mind should have confidence in Reddit or believe that anything on there is real or authentic.

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Post by irrational »

xenihn wrote: post #334
irrational wrote: post #326

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What if it was done constantly all day long every day? How would that be any different than having been done once? This is reddit, the bastion of anonymous inanity.

That's possible and likely. It would obviously be worse.

Worse why? This is Reddit we are talking about.

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Post by esturk »

pen2l wrote: post #152
trident5000 wrote: post #111

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The CEO himself admitted to going into The_Donald subreddit (before it was banned) and editing user comments. I don't think this guy is leading the charge to admin transparency. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/reddit-ceo-edits-user-comment...

This gets brought up a lot. And it's a bit of a doozy to make sense of. First, consider the context: the CEO (spez) was an easy punching bag on the_donald subreddit, in fact it was a bit of a meme there to attack reddit's admins (and those in the know do know that the attacks were often crossing a line, like accusing them of being pedophiles and things of the nature). The change that spez made was a bit of a joke its…

You say the r/the_donald doesn't exist but it's only banned at the moment.

Some search engines like Duckduckgo actually keeps a bang shortcut (!) awaiting the day when that subreddit gets unbanned.

Its hard to really make something disappear completely once it's on the internet.

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