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No. If you go back and look at that accusation, it was that he was propositioning people for sex in the halls of MIT, AND he had a mattress in his office.
He used to live in his office.
He moved out around 1998.[1]
Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF
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Re: Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF
#652I am here to say I am pleased to see RMS active in software issues again. I am a fan of his ideas related to software, and his gift to us has paid me and most of my peers off over and over. Tons of others have added to all that and here we are today. Personally, I will consider what he says about software, data, IP. The man is not often wrong. Has a lot to say, and he should be heard. There are other issues, and that…
Genuine question, is there anything useful he has said in the last 10 years he has said you can point to? He seems helplessly lost in the past, before the web, the explosion in javascript, etc. etc.
It's not about having a mouthpiece. The point of him being at the helm, so to speak, is that he has, for lack of better words, put his money where his mouth is.
RMS can be trusted and depended upon to hold up the idea of free software and lead it. Cancellation mobs and political opportunists cannot be trusted, because they will never be satisfied with their agenda, and because they do not truly care about the foundations of FSF and GNU, and what they stand for.
In short, RMS has already said his piece. The main concern is his control and leadership for the organizations.
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#653Mob justice is not OK just because women do it. If these women have anything substantial they should make formal reports/complaints, not anonymous vogue statements like, "he make me feel uncomfortable". Cannot believe that one even has to say this. Why are women always presumed to be innocent and men always presumed to be guilty? Also, frankly, there is a point at which, certain behaviour might make you feel uncomfor…
Hear hear! We as a civilization have an organization for dealing with these kinds of issues, its called the police. If assault happens, immediately go to the police and report your issue. Watching non-law enforcement agencies get involved in criminal matters has been an utter clusterfuck.
I would entirely agree but police also have a horrible track record when it comes to these things. The mob justice happens because the cops can’t be trusted to do justice, and haven’t been shown themselves worthy of that trust for generations when it comes to sexual assault. (Sometimes the cops themselves are the ones doing the assaulting!)
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#654I think it is strange that, on the one hand, the tech world has been advocating for the rights of neurodivergent people – society should accept that people on the autism spectrum are different and that’s OK. But at the same time RMS has been attacked for some statements very probably stemming from his autism that, while they may seem a bit shocking and at odds with the mainstream, were not illegal or intentionally of…
Ribbonfarm called this a couple years ago: https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2018/03/06/a-quick-battle-field-g... Specifically battlefront #8. He calls it consequential because the the neurodivergent/PC conflict highlights an inherent paradox in the PC worldview. Most applications of political correctness focus (at least on the surface) on defending a marginalized group against the verbal attacks of a privileged one. When a…
Its important to emphasis one thing about Ribbonfarm. The author wholly supports for Hindu caste system. This is where his arguments come from.
Re: Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF
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As a southern American, I'd chalk a lot of it up to our multiculturalism. There are different parts within the US, where you'd get different answers to that question, almost always! But I'd say suggestion and (to use the southern term) social grace is one of the most nuanced and culture-heavy forms of communication. In that it assumes a lot of shared culture between you and the other party. As least down here, with >…
> most of those cues completely disappear cross-culturally. If they simply disappeared, it would be alright. The problem is when they have the exact opposite meaning. One example is US-ian unnaturally white teeth, that supposedly look OK there, but are somewhat creepy in the rest of the world. I mean, human teeth are not supposed to be white, but a range of very light ivory tones.
> The problem is when they have the exact opposite meaning
Granted! But also when they have no meaning, or are just... odd (e.g. "That's weird, how do they want me to respond to that reply they just made?")
White teeth are totally creepy here too. If you ask any US dentist, they'll tell you to match eye white (varies from individual to individual) to look natural.
But, then, there's a few "beautiful people" states where norms are so out of whack they don't realize how weird it is.
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The source is https://whoisylvia.medium.com/richard-stallman-has-been-vili...
The source on that someone faked that door sign? Because I do not see that in there. edit: and the downvotes while still providing no source for alternative facts, just strenghten my image of the FSF and its followers as a quasireligious cult. And nothing I want to connect with, despite myself living and loving open source.
> Because I do not see that in there.
It's in the last paragraph.
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#657R-M-S R-M-S R-M-S R-M-S R-M-S R-M-S R-M-S
It's great that he's back, but he shouldn't have been gone in the first place. Mob justice ("cancelling") shouldn't be a thing. It's time we had a serious discussion about what we can do to stop this. Step 0 should be finding the courage to stick up for people like RMS in the first place.
Subsequent steps? I'm not sure. We need to collectively get the feeling that it's gone way too far and the costs of sticking up for people like RMS are i) smaller than they seem, and ii) worth it.
Re: Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF
#658Mob justice is not OK just because women do it. If these women have anything substantial they should make formal reports/complaints, not anonymous vogue statements like, "he make me feel uncomfortable". Cannot believe that one even has to say this. Why are women always presumed to be innocent and men always presumed to be guilty? Also, frankly, there is a point at which, certain behaviour might make you feel uncomfor…
> "he once hit on me and I had to reject him". The latter is perfectly normal behavior unless you propose we criminalize being a man. If you are a superior to the person in question, I don't agree that it's normal behavior. In that case you put that person in a very tough position. Same for teacher/student. That's also why a lot of companies have a policy against that. Notice how I didn't specify the genders, since i…
What about befriending superiors? What if I refuse to befriend them? Wouldn’t they retaliate? Can I mention my favorite sports team at work?
I consider prisoners and children/mentally unfit taboo. The rest is human and not per se bad or to be forbidden. Obviously some setups carry more risk.
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Ah yes, the great conspiracy against white men. The porest, most underprivileged and oppressed group on this earth. We have to unite!
Well that's a hell of a strawman...
"because he is a prominent figure and at the same time white, male"
Oh right. I probably confused parent posters words for .. I don't know. Isn't he or she (less likely) exactly saying this? That RMS was targeted because he is white and male and not because of what he did and said? How is that not thinking along the lines of conspiracy? Exaggerated, yes. But strawman? Where exactly?
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Wh...a. Transitioning fixed your social cue perception?! That is incredibly fascinating. I'm not even sure how to classify that... pragmatic psychological function (oookay that's probably not a thing), neurobiology, or what else. IMO this is a gigantic breadcrumb for Something™. The question is what the axis point was, and what got fixed as a result. Cooool. I am very curious what else shifted that you'd be happy to…
Autistic MtF programmers is something that happens enough to be a trope, joke or meme.
Why did you make this comment?