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Norwegian experts say blood clots were caused by the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine

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Re: Norwegian experts say blood clots were caused by the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine

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Europe really messed up their vaccine orders and they are looking for excuses to cover it up.

EMA concluded that these incidents were not caused by the vaccine so it kinda disproves your statement here.

I think we agree that it wasn't caused by the vaccine so I have no idea what you are getting at

Re: Norwegian experts say blood clots were caused by the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine

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Because covid is considerably more contagious than most flu strains.

COVID is not the virus, it is the disease that results from the coronavirus. The virus is the contagious part. Sure, but do you really believe everyone was so hygienic that the flu was entirely eliminated in some areas? Most of the trips I have taken out involve at least a couple encounters with people wearing their masks improperly, touching their face, sneezing, coughing, etc. We should see at least some small amou…

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Re: Norwegian experts say blood clots were caused by the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine

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post #51

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Indeed, and this far, "only" 8 women below 60 years have died from COVID-19 (in total) Source: https://www.fhi.no/sv/smittsomme-sykdommer/corona/dags--og-u...

Uh, I did not think that far. So if the vaccination is responsible for the deaths, it almost killed half the number of women below 50 that COVID has since March 2020. Fucking hell, and people outside Norway complain that the governmend is taking action? (EDIT: only one death, not three)

Update: two new deaths following vaccination, with a similar clinical picture, were just reported, they are now investigating if the vaccine is the likely cause

Source (Norwegian): https://legemiddelverket.no/nyheter/legemiddelverket-har-mot...

Re: Norwegian experts say blood clots were caused by the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine

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post #57

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Uh, I did not think that far. So if the vaccination is responsible for the deaths, it almost killed half the number of women below 50 that COVID has since March 2020. Fucking hell, and people outside Norway complain that the governmend is taking action? (EDIT: only one death, not three)

It's one death, not three, but I share the conclusion with the data that's currently available.

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Re: Norwegian experts say blood clots were caused by the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine

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post #51

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Indeed, and this far, "only" 8 women below 60 years have died from COVID-19 (in total) Source: https://www.fhi.no/sv/smittsomme-sykdommer/corona/dags--og-u...

Uh, I did not think that far. So if the vaccination is responsible for the deaths, it almost killed half the number of women below 50 that COVID has since March 2020. Fucking hell, and people outside Norway complain that the governmend is taking action? (EDIT: only one death, not three)

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Re: Norwegian experts say blood clots were caused by the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine

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post #81

Europe really messed up their vaccine orders and they are looking for excuses to cover it up.

EMA concluded that these incidents were not caused by the vaccine so it kinda disproves your statement here.

I guess you can't understand context. I'm saying they snubbed the vaccine to cover their asses for messing up the orders.

Re: Norwegian experts say blood clots were caused by the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine

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I've had the exact some happen (It's rare, but here I am), including a transient ischemic stroke while having virtually no platelets. There is no real understanding for the cause of immune thrombocytopenia in the first place, but the combination of low platelets and clotting happens in quite a few cases. Platelets take on a lot of roles beyond clotting (for example they transport serotonin, which itself has been link…

Perhaps the few available platelets were all consumed in the act of forming the clot so they registered as low because they were gone?

That would cause systemic problems for the person and almost certain death.

Platelets are filtered out of the blood by the spleen and then stored or cleaned up there. The spleen likely just cleans them up as per instructions from the immune system. On the other side are production problems where your bone marrow stops producing platelets, but that is more commonly due to cancers or cancer treatments.

Re: Norwegian experts say blood clots were caused by the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine

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> Norway has also had at least three serious cases with 130.000 people vaccinated, so the incidence is certainly higher than 1 per 2.3 million. That's not how numbers work. You can't look at California, for example, and conclude that because 63% of voters chose Biden, his national vote share is certainly higher than 52%.

It's 1 in 43.000 (Norway) versus 1 in 2.3 million (AZ numbers). That's a two orders of magnitude difference. While I can amend my statement to agree it's not certain that local factors and randomness haven't affected the outcome that much, it's a very suspicious observation.

According to VG is the German number close to 1 blood clot in 61.400 vaccinated

Source: https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/i/x32Xyl/tyskland-31-tilf...

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