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Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Isn't rss how podcasts are normally distributed?

Judging by most podcast ads I've heard, the normal distribution methods are the Google Play store and iTunes.

iTunes uses RSS for podcasts (or at least used to). It's invisible for most users though since they use the same platform for discovery and consumption.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Generally extreme ones. You can be politically on the right and espouse views such as "lower taxes, smaller government, less regulation" but spilling over into racism is what would be termed "wrong". The right are not at risk of being deplatformed,the racist right is.

That is a very narrow view. Take, for example, transgenders in women's sport. Do they have an unfair biological advantage over natural women? Are you a transphobe if you think so? Should you be cancelled and deplatformed if you think so? With so many potentially offensible groups, and with offense definition shifting so often, are you sure that something totally ok now won't deplatform you in 5 years?

That is a very popular topic among the far right. I guess that is just a completely random coincidence, and nothing at all to do with it being hateful.

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Generally extreme ones. You can be politically on the right and espouse views such as "lower taxes, smaller government, less regulation" but spilling over into racism is what would be termed "wrong". The right are not at risk of being deplatformed,the racist right is.

Even not working for free for someone "against racism" (and/or beign a little religious) is enough these days, like when some people try to cancel Chris Pratt for not doing a fundraising for Biden. https://www.deseret.com/indepth/2020/10/19/21523754/chris-pr...

So he was kicked off Youtube for this?

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Sebastian and Linus Media Group seem to be pretty frank and open about a lot of this: see for instance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzRGBAUz5mA&list=PL8mG-RkN2u... on putting up gurning thumbnails and navigating the YT algorithm (and that whole playlist, including a revenue breakdown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t73wXF8IF-8&list=PL8mG-RkN2u... ), the Gamers Nexus video on LTT's production process https://www.yo…

I wonder how many potential views he loses due to his gurning? I've never watched any of his videos despite YT constantly recommending them to me because I've got a personal rule about never clicking on a thumbnail that has a picture of someone pulling a face or which has a clickbait title.

Unfortunately, you're the only one missing out by skipping dumb thumbnails. Obviously a lot of dumb thumbnails have dumb videos, but not all.

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Sebastian and Linus Media Group seem to be pretty frank and open about a lot of this: see for instance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzRGBAUz5mA&list=PL8mG-RkN2u... on putting up gurning thumbnails and navigating the YT algorithm (and that whole playlist, including a revenue breakdown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t73wXF8IF-8&list=PL8mG-RkN2u... ), the Gamers Nexus video on LTT's production process https://www.yo…

I wonder how many potential views he loses due to his gurning? I've never watched any of his videos despite YT constantly recommending them to me because I've got a personal rule about never clicking on a thumbnail that has a picture of someone pulling a face or which has a clickbait title.

I agree with your principles but I'm not strong enough to stick to them. I just installed the addon YouTube Clickbait Remover, which uncapitalizes titles and replaces thumbnails with a frame from the video.

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All: please let's try to avoid repeating the generic discussion about how being on someone else's platform leaves you vulnerable to someone else. It's not wrong, of course, but it's been repeated for many years and won't lead to fresh conversation. The goal on HN is curious conversation. Curiosity likes diffs [1], not generics [2, 3]. Try to comment in a way that leads to a new place rather than an old place. The eas…

(This is a stub reply so I can collapse the various comments responding to this, so as not to distract too much from the rest of the thread. Sorry, non-JS users.)

I've seen a lot of otherwise reasonable threads get bogged down by "lowest common denominator" replies, especially ones that don't require reading the article and could really be posted in any thread matching the right keywords. Such comments are *really* easy to make and frequently do "well" in that they attract votes and comments, drowning out the rest of the discussion. Do you have ideas on how to combat this? Obviously moderator intervention would help, but it's not possible to be everywhere, especially in the first couple minutes of a post when the temptation to leave a lazy comment and the cost to the overall direction of discussion from such a comment is the greatest.

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And this is why Google needs to be split up. No other enterprise can burn so many billions of dollars for so many years to corner the market. Google uses profits from search to napalm everything remotely looking like a threat.

> No other enterprise can burn so many billions of dollars for so many years to corner the market. No other enterprise, besides Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, and all the streaming companies (Netflix, Disney, ...).

I'm not sure any of those companies entering this space would help.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Floatplane as explained by Linus doesn't make sense, you support a creator by getting videos a little earlier. The cost of building and maintaining a platform like that must be large and seems unnecessary for what is essentially video Patreon. What is sad is that you see youtubers talking in code on videos, not saying words, self censoring because youtube's detection is so good, videos get demonetised instantly. This…

That's the reality. I can't speak for other youtubers, but I have an audio DSP plugin called BitShiftGain. It does exact offsets of 6dB, because doing that alters the exponent and only the exponent of the floating point word without touching the mantissa, making it lossless if you had headroom for the adjustment (for instance, if you can go up without clipping, you can go up and down losslessly)

On YouTube I have to call it 'wordlength shift gain' because YouTube thinks I'm saying 'bitch'. And I don't know, maybe that would increase my YouTube discovery at some times when they're leaning more in the direction of provocation-for-engagement, but that's not the kind of channel I do, so I self-edit.

I don't find it sad so much as it's simply a step into the future: awareness means understanding what the algorithms will make of you. Fail to grasp that and you get caught in the gears. I also openly talk about how I allow YouTube to run ads even though I'm a uBlock Origin guy myself and encourage people to adblock likewise: I assume that if I balk YouTube on this, or fail to pretend that I'm after what meager revenue YouTube promises, that I'll be eventually punished for it. So, I keep up appearances, 'cos it's a key platform for me.

I'm currently watching the Linus Media Group playlist on how they make money and why they make clickbaity thumbnails, with interest. I could probably put some words into my thumbnails and construct them better. I earnestly believe Google is good enough to automate discovery of whether people are doing these things, and reward/punish them algorithmically based on whether they're in compliance, so I am probably blocking myself from discoverability by failing to include text on thumbnails even without a single Googler making a human decision on the matter. I don't know whether I need to make faces too: it's an experiment I could try if I felt like it. Gurning for dollars :)

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