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Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by aphextron » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 1:35 AM UTC

simongr3dal wrote: post #17

g42gregory wrote: post #15

I did not even know that Linus had his own site. Fantastic. I won’t be watching his videos on Youtube anymore! Hopefully, everyone I watch will have their own websites, so that I don’t have to visit Youtube.

If only there was some kind of really simple syndication so I didn’t have to visit 40 different sites to check if my favorite video creators have released anything new.

Now if only we had some sort of... protocol... that would allow for us to exchange text based documents from different "servers" that each individual content creator is able to control and interlink with other "servers" via some kind of address based referencing system embedded in those documents. That would allow us to discover content and decentralize from platforms like Youtube...

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by bordercases » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 1:43 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #207

gist wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's not wrong, of course, but it's been repeated for many years and won't lead to fresh conversation. Assumes there are no new readers on HN and that everyone reads almost everything and nothing needs repeating. Also it's very 'no noobies' as if anyone who is anyone should know the ropes already. And that is not the case. And I've mentioned this before a few times so I will repeat. Why don't you have in your profi…

I think you're underestimating the ability of HN readers to figure things out. Perhaps that is the answer to both questions.

This equivalent of "RTFM" is a hostile percept for communication, as it implies that it is right to hide or obfuscate relevant information so that the speaker has less of a job to do when producing clear speech.

There are benefits to "RTFM". They may involve making sure there are shared assumptions during speech that allow further speech to be economized equitably between speaker and receiver. They may involve the internalization of the structure of a model so that they it be applied fluently in some practical setting. Your suggestion fails to satisfy either condition as the cost is either inequitable, or the benefit is irrelevant.

Putting a tag that says "moderator" next to a username is such a cheap quality of life improvement that even if what you claim is true, it really shouldn't be the job of the audience to figure anything out in the first place, as by comparison, it looks like a strong disfavor.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by leoc » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 1:45 AM UTC

walrus01 wrote: post #210

> Linus Sebastian Something to understand, for those who might have just seen some youtube videos of him being goofy, is that he's an actor . The guy on camera doing stupid stuff is a stage persona. It's an intentionally cultivated image and media persona to get as many video views as possible. I sort of see him as one possible aspect of the low/medium budget TV production stuff which is common in his home city, Vanc…

Sebastian and Linus Media Group seem to be pretty frank and open about a lot of this: see for instance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzRGBAUz5mA&list=PL8mG-RkN2u... on putting up gurning thumbnails and navigating the YT algorithm (and that whole playlist, including a revenue breakdown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t73wXF8IF-8&list=PL8mG-RkN2u... ), the Gamers Nexus video on LTT's production process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdOBFu-mYpw and the coverage LTT regularly lavishes on its own production setup and process, from a nearly-12m video about the awkwardness of ingesting video from their new 12K cameras https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pocfGBQZUSI to seemingly quite genuine fly-on-the-wall coverage of temporarily losing their data to a RAID failure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSrnXgAmK8k . Obviously you always have to take anyone's self-presentation with a grain of salt. But they're certainly not hiding the fact that there's a more grounded reality behind the "on" personas.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by graeme » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 1:48 AM UTC

vl wrote: post #153

graeme wrote: post #70

I follow CGP Grey’s stuff and it’s been interesting and instructive to see how he diversified. * His Youtube channel is his main platform * However, the money mostly comes from patreon subscribers, and you can also have videos delivered there * He also earns income from a podcast, Cortex * The Podcast has its own brand of sellable things, currently journals and Tshirts * He had a second podcast, hello internet, curre…

CGP Grey is strange, so to say. He effectively abandoned Hello Internet. They once mentioned that they have 900K subs. Grey fully controlled HI, and it was way more popular than Cortex. If he wants to diversify so much abandoning project like this just doesn’t make sense. Also he has no basic decency to announce cancelation and left Tims hanging, for many of whom it was the podcast.

I dunno, it’s his and Brady’s to do with as they wish. There’s a financial penalty to letting it lay fallow, but that’s their choice to make.

They stopped it right when the pandemic hit. That messed up podcast advertising for a while, and also the usual stuff they talked about.

Meanwhile they both have other projects and may have decided their time or energy was better spent elsewhere. Who knows?

A little unusual not to say anything but hey, they end episodes without goodbye so not a giant surprise. And Brady has said they’re on a break and on good terms so it isn’t totally secret either.

I enjoyed it while it was around and wish them well, but I don’t think they owe us anything. I subbed to Goodbye Internet to give a small incentive to them restarting, and that’s it.

But to my larger point, it is still an asset. If the community atrophies 40% while they’re gone...it’s still 60% of a great asset.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by leoc » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 1:49 AM UTC

Zak wrote: post #227

walrus01 wrote: post #210

> Linus Sebastian Something to understand, for those who might have just seen some youtube videos of him being goofy, is that he's an actor . The guy on camera doing stupid stuff is a stage persona. It's an intentionally cultivated image and media persona to get as many video views as possible. I sort of see him as one possible aspect of the low/medium budget TV production stuff which is common in his home city, Vanc…

People watch videos largely for entertainment, even when the subject matter is a review of computer hardware or advice concerning technology. For pure informational value, a written format with occasional short illustrative video clips is usually more useful. I think every successful youtuber has a cultivated stage persona because that's more entertaining than just watching an everyday person talk about a mechanical…

You can in fact watch a professional chemist talk about a mechanical keyboard for 15 minutes on a pretty successful YouTube channel, but he's definitely going to be using his larger-than-life stage persona: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui_wOiUDPvM .

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by xiphias2 » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 1:51 AM UTC

xwdv wrote: post #87

I wonder if there could be a good business in building “deplatforming” type content websites for people with large audiences who want to decouple from centralized platforms.

Like Parlor?

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Post by im3w1l » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 1:52 AM UTC

kiwidrew wrote: post #205

simias wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just incredibly hard to compete with Youtube. In a way that's Google's greatest achievement: they convinced everybody that they're entitled to host and stream 4K videos forever not only for free, but the creators get a share of the ad revenue despite fronting none of the hosting costs. It's an incredibly good deal. The amount of infrastructure and human resources required to merely keep a system like Youtube run…

With the major cloud providers charging upwards of $0.10 per GB of outbound traffic, it's no wonder that few even attempt to compete with Youtube.

Tip: look for offers that say "Bandwidth: x Gbps" rather than ones saying "$x / GB"

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by graeme » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 1:52 AM UTC

simias wrote: post #143

graeme wrote: post #70

I follow CGP Grey’s stuff and it’s been interesting and instructive to see how he diversified. * His Youtube channel is his main platform * However, the money mostly comes from patreon subscribers, and you can also have videos delivered there * He also earns income from a podcast, Cortex * The Podcast has its own brand of sellable things, currently journals and Tshirts * He had a second podcast, hello internet, curre…

> However, the money mostly comes from patreon subscribers, and you can also have videos delivered there Did he break that down publicly or do you get your info from elsewhere? I've always been curious to know what a typical high profile youtuber income flow looks like, and how much they're really tied to Youtube.

Just a guess knowing how low Youtube ad rates are and how Grey has mentioned he switched over his income from ad sponsorships to patreon. And Patreon income is public.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by rreichel03 » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 1:55 AM UTC

I spent some time a while back trying to build the “Shopify for Video streams” where creators could have a custom hosted channel that enables them to monetize however they’d like! Ultimately I didn’t do a great job of marketing it, but if anyone’s interested in giving it a spin for their channel feel free to fill out the beta interest form here: https://yourchannel.rreichel.dev

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by PartiallyTyped » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 1:55 AM UTC

loudmax wrote: post #141

PartiallyTyped wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Besides FloatPlane, other streaming websites that educational channels upload content to are nebula [1] and I think curiosity stream [2]. [1] https://watchnebula.com/ [2] https://curiositystream.com/

I got a subscription to Curiosity Stream with Nebula bundled in. While Curiosity Stream has original content, as far as I can tell all of the Nebula stuff is also available on YouTube. So as a Nebula customer the only real benefit is watching content without ads. This is well and good, but ads aside, Youtube is simply a more convenient platform. There's less outright garbage on Nebula, and that's a good thing because…

I can recall that certain channels have (or at least had) exclusive content on Nebula, but it indeed appears to be worth while considering I am paying more for spotify and netflix.