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Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by sithlord »

hobofan wrote: post #82
devoutsalsa wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if you keep up with what’s politically correct, your old content can become increasingly unfavorable. You can get railroaded for something you said 10 years ago that was seemingly alright at the time. I cringe at myself 10 years ago.

And how is that different on any other platform?

Youtube could easily just obliterate a channel today, for some video posted 10 years ago if they deem it bad enough. Doubt if you had your own platform you'd delete yourself for something cringe you said 10 years ago

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by celticninja »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #8

Because they are finally learning that existing on someone else's platform sucks. Much better to get your own domain which is actually property registered to your name and can't be taken away from you because you offended some advertiser.

Could you still use YouTube for hosting with embedded videos and then switch to self hosted if YouTube kicked you off? Would embedding videos mean you can't monetise them?

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by VBprogrammer »

bryan_w wrote: post #67
nicbou wrote: post #9

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Even then, you're at Google's mercy, since they control search traffic. I run my own website, but 85% of my traffic comes from Google. It's pretty much like getting 85% of your income from a single client.

You could run an ad in a newspaper.

Are you being sarcastic? Conversation rates from newspapers are pretty much nonexistent (and difficult to measure).

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by celticninja »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #72
MangoCoffee wrote: post #43

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yeah, like so many ISVs build their software on top of Windows and slowly losing market share when Microsoft decided to get into their space like the Office suite. i remember using Lotus 123 on my dad's laptop. Lotus was the king at the time and Microsoft kill them slowly. if i'm not mistaking Microsoft with hold Win32 api or something that make Microsoft's own Office software run faster.

Reminds me of these articles. http://www.paulgraham.com/road.html https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2004/06/13/how-microsoft-lost... > If you want to write desktop software now you do it on Microsoft’s terms, calling their APIs and working around their buggy OS. > And if you manage to write something that takes off, you may find that you were merely doing market research for Microsoft. I simply don't understand why anyo…

This is what Amazon is doing now, find a product that sells well and they will start selling it, cheaper than you and probably prioritising their own product listing over yours.

Apple have been doing it with Apps since the iPhone started, first it was jailbreak apps and then any app became fairgame.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by FpUser »

Because when you have business that brings money you do not let the somebody else control it to the point that they can kill it next day just because they can.

One of the reasons why my backends are based on self sufficient architecture that I can move to any arbitrary VM / dedicated server in no time. There is no cloudy dependent stuff in my stack at all.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by golemotron »

user-the-name wrote: post #57
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #22

Because they are finally learning that all it takes to destroy their business is an algorithm glitch, or having 'wrong' political views, or just falling on the wrong side of an overzealous moderator. When you use someone else's platform you are completely dependent on the owner of the platform, and being dependent on something you don't control is a huge business risk.

What "wrong" political views are those?

That's backward. The people who can best answer that question are the ones who have been de-platformed.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by matheusmoreira »

xienze wrote: post #66
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #22

Because they are finally learning that all it takes to destroy their business is an algorithm glitch, or having 'wrong' political views, or just falling on the wrong side of an overzealous moderator. When you use someone else's platform you are completely dependent on the owner of the platform, and being dependent on something you don't control is a huge business risk.

> When you use someone else's platform you are completely dependent on the owner of the platform, and being dependent on something you don't control is a huge business risk. Being off of YouTube doesn’t make you immune to this. You can still be deplatformed by your host, domain registrar, payment processor, etc.

There are hosts out there which will host you as long as you're not breaking any laws. This is actually how things should work.

Registrars won't take away your domain just because they don't like your site. Companies will delete your personal account on their platforms without even talking to you. I can't think of any case where a domain was seized without a court order.

Circumventing payment processor censorship is one of the many purposes of cryptocurrency technology. All you have to do is accept Monero as payment. The more people that do this, the more legitimate and popular and well supported it will be.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by bawolff »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #8

Because they are finally learning that existing on someone else's platform sucks. Much better to get your own domain which is actually property registered to your name and can't be taken away from you because you offended some advertiser.

Although if your goal is to actually make money, offending advertisers on your own domaim isnt going to work out well for you.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

celticninja wrote: post #85
user-the-name wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What "wrong" political views are those?

Generally extreme ones. You can be politically on the right and espouse views such as "lower taxes, smaller government, less regulation" but spilling over into racism is what would be termed "wrong". The right are not at risk of being deplatformed,the racist right is.

That is a very narrow view. Take, for example, transgenders in women's sport. Do they have an unfair biological advantage over natural women? Are you a transphobe if you think so? Should you be cancelled and deplatformed if you think so?

With so many potentially offensible groups, and with offense definition shifting so often, are you sure that something totally ok now won't deplatform you in 5 years?

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by v7p1Qbt1im »

Blikkentrekker wrote: post #38
nicbou wrote: post #9

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Even then, you're at Google's mercy, since they control search traffic. I run my own website, but 85% of my traffic comes from Google. It's pretty much like getting 85% of your income from a single client.

I feel there should be a legal principle that services as large as Google , that essentially have a monopoly in such a field could be legally ruled a service of public interest, and held to certain standards and essentially be told by governments how they be run. How to escape this fate? Do not become a big monopoly. We live in an age where various resources that are essentially indispensable public resources are pro…

You need bigger systemic change for that. Under neoliberal capitalism the optimal theoretical end state of any (for profit) corporation is to own absolutely everything and be the last one standing. It‘s just the nature of a corporation.

Hyperbole, yes. But you get the point.

It just so happens that big tech firms have a shot of actually achieving it.

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