Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked • Hacker News Board

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by undefined1 » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 5:56 PM UTC

AbrahamParangi wrote: post #559

timsayshey wrote: post #527

I've been following Hacker News for over a decade and my sense of the community is that it has always been overwhelmingly pro free speech at any cost (even in the cases where it would protect something outright illegal). Now I'm hearing from many in the same community that free speech has been "weaponized" and must be controlled for the greater good. What happened? Seriously.

Many individual beliefs are really tribe beliefs. If the tribe beliefs change then the individual beliefs will change too, because the individual was never really committed to them. This happened recently in 2020 from Jan to May on the Coronavirus. The party of “no big deal” reoriented from left to right and many people reoriented with it. Tribe beliefs on free speech have changed and those who align with those tribe…

nailed it. most people outsource their beliefs and simply echo the positions and words of their tribal leaders.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by Schiendelman » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 5:57 PM UTC

ttt0 wrote: post #675

Schiendelman wrote: post #670

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They called the attack on them slanderous. Interestingly they didn't actually deny it. This is exactly how dog whistles work, dude...

Yes, because attacking them for that stage is slanderous? That's what slander is. I haven't seen anyone picking up that "dog whistle" besides people like you. edit: search on twitter the phrase "cpac rune based" or "cpac stage based". If it was a dog whistle, I would expect someone to pick up on it and call it "based". Yet the only people who are talking about it are the people who are making those stupid accusations…

I would NOT expect someone to talk about it publicly. That's why CPAC would hedge and not openly deny they used a Nazi symbol. This is how a group that knows they need to hide communicate with one another.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by vkou » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 5:58 PM UTC

nix23 wrote: post #437

vkou wrote: post #337

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White vs Black was something that was ripping the United States apart since the arrival of the first slave on the continent, so I'd have a hard time crediting the KGB for it.

Heating up the debate with no chance for consensus is/was one of the strategy's of the KGB to rip a democratic society apart.

What could you possibly mean by 'no chance for consensus'?

Let me get this straight. One group of people has all the political power in an area. That group of people repressed another group. The second group wants to be treated like human beings.

To me, it seems that if you want to avoid conflict and strife, the first group should immediately give in to those demands. Those demands are just, and the status quo is indefensible, and the first group has the political power to solve the problem, and anyone obstructing the immediate implementation of those demands is the one causing strife.

Since they have a monopoly on power, the onus is on them to make the society they built just, not on the people they are repressing.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by pid_0 » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 5:58 PM UTC

rchaud wrote: post #647

pid_0 wrote: post #578

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He said “trannies” I wouldn’t say it’s a transphobic slur. He said it to clearly piss off people though. The ceo sounds like a very secure, happy person with no mental problems. Also, transgender issues aren’t political. Modern monetary theory can be political. Immigration policies are political. Human rights are not political. I’m not a liberal or anything, just a rational person.

> I’m not a liberal or anything, just a rational person. As a rational person, it must have occurred to you that if what you say is true, abortion and gay rights would have stopped being election issues many moons ago. The reason they haven't is because it works, it gets people to the polls. That's politics. People don't vote for 'rational', 'objective' technocrats who are 'policy wonks'. They will vote for whoever t…

>Human rights are not political.

I thought that statement would make it clear I am in support for all the stuff you mentioned, guess not

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by pid_0 » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 6:01 PM UTC

pid_0 wrote: post #578

ghostpepper wrote: post #566

Why is the second sentence of this article about how the CEO of Gab used a Transphobic slur? It kind of seems like the author threw that in there to make sure the reader agrees with their political views, but the article doesn't say what the slur was, and I don't think the author would defend the idea that being transphobic makes it okay to hack a person's website, but it kind of feels like that's the point implicitl…

He said “trannies” I wouldn’t say it’s a transphobic slur. He said it to clearly piss off people though. The ceo sounds like a very secure, happy person with no mental problems. Also, transgender issues aren’t political. Modern monetary theory can be political. Immigration policies are political. Human rights are not political. I’m not a liberal or anything, just a rational person.

It seems people didn't really understand what I am saying. Calling human rights a political issue makes it seem as if there are two opposing yet equally valid sides... as that is what political means.

Human rights are not political. There is not opposing view to human rights, you just give them to people. Every has the right to respect, equality, etc. Thought that would be pretty obvious.

Making this stuff "political" just devalues the message and progress.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by dfgjklj4 » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 6:02 PM UTC

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #546

iSnow wrote: post #534

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IDK man, the last POTUS didn't seem so anti-authoritarian to me, but that might again be an outside position.

I'm a big believer in the life experience determining the politics and Trump, Bloomberg, Biden, Pelosi, and all those other "in the urban neoliberal ruling class, spent their early careers in the urban ruling class" seem to want to solve problems using the jackboot. If you look at actual policy Bernie, AOC, Warren, etc push (i.e. not the twitter crap they pile on to for virtue points) much less authoritarians stuff d…

>...less authoritarian...

"Green New Deal" harks back to a time when our government was literally being run by a single man.

>The president stayed in charge of his administration...by drawing fully on his formal and informal powers as Chief Executive; by raising goals, creating momentum, inspiring a personal loyalty, getting the best out of people...by deliberately fostering among his aides a sense of competition and a clash of wills that led to disarray, heartbreak, and anger but also set off pulses of executive energy and sparks of creativity...by handing out one job to several men and several jobs to one man, thus strengthening his own position as a court of appeals, as a depository of information, and as a tool of co-ordination; by ignoring or bypassing collective decision-making agencies, such as the Cabinet...and always by persuading, flattering, juggling, improvising, reshuffling, harmonizing, conciliating, manipulating.[149]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt#Presiden...

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by pid_0 » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 6:03 PM UTC

Karawebnetwork wrote: post #681

pid_0 wrote: post #578

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He said “trannies” I wouldn’t say it’s a transphobic slur. He said it to clearly piss off people though. The ceo sounds like a very secure, happy person with no mental problems. Also, transgender issues aren’t political. Modern monetary theory can be political. Immigration policies are political. Human rights are not political. I’m not a liberal or anything, just a rational person.

He did not write the word alone. The quote itself is: "Mentally ill tr**ny demon hackers (I’m very serious) are attacking Gab right now."

You know, putting an asterisk in the word doesn't magically make a word not offensive. It reads the same way. People see it the same way. Just write the word out.

He said, "Mentally ill tranny demon hackers (I’m very serious) are attacking Gab right now."

Clearly he is a stable and happy person with no insecurities.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by amaccuish » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 6:04 PM UTC

Proziam wrote: post #521

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #449

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> by worldwide standards America actually ranges from center-right (Democrats) to far-right (Republicans) OhBoyHereWeGo.jpg It's stupid to try and condense the political ideology of the US (or almost any nation) down to one spectrum and then try and map that onto the rest of the world when we (and the rest of the world) have a lot of ideology based on "well party X took position Y because party V had position W back…

From my point of view as an American who has lived in Europe (Sweden, later Germany, and the UK) my framing of the US political situation is as follows: Democrats tend to be authoritarian and pro-centralization of power. Republicans tend to be anti-authoritarian and pro-decentralization. Both major parties have a long history of deep corruption. They've essentially colluded to rob the American people blind. Unfortuna…

Unfortunately this is one of those comments that tries to dress up a political score point as innocent-looking and "factual" based on "experience".

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by asabjorn » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 6:05 PM UTC

yibg wrote: post #283

asabjorn wrote: post #106

As much as I love open source, Gab should have never been open source. It seems very unwise to make a highly targeted free speech social media platform available for easy backend code analysis. No wonder they were hacked. https://git.rip/gab/gab-social

So, prefer security by obscurity?

No, use a varied set of mitigation strategies that fit your use-case.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by Schiendelman » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 6:07 PM UTC

jki275 wrote: post #672

Schiendelman wrote: post #671

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So you've got voters for this party that use a symbol. And then later their stage is shaped that way. Why make the assumption that someone is looking for bullshit when this connection exists?

Again, you're simply quoting liars who make up controversy for a living. The simple geometric shape of a stage isn't a nazi rune. Full stop. You're making shit up.

I'm not sure what you think is a lie here. A part of the party marches with a flag with that symbol. You can find it in guides to neo-Nazi symbols. Then their stage is shaped like it.

It's very important to put the burden of proof on the political party that has actual Nazis in it, not on people pointing to what's a very strong coincidence.