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Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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> Adverse selection. If your differenciating feature is "you can say what you want without getting banned", your userbase is going to tend towards people who get banned on other platforms. In todays climate, that is mostly the far right. And in Hong Kong, it's anti-CCP protestors. In Iran, it is opponents of the theocracy. We can play this game all day. Tech's obsession with hating on Gab/Parler is based upon on the…

What point are you making? Those are the “far right” (or “far left” depending on your views) in those contexts. The point remains: extreme views will gravitate to these platforms. That is “far right”. If you don’t prefer that title call it “extremist views”; it’s irrelevant what you label it; the point remains entirely valid.

The point is there's nothing inherently "far right" about the technology or the platform.

Protection of offensive speech is a bedrock classical liberal view.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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For the record, I support mainstream trans rights. I fail to see how evidence of hate and violence coming from trans extremists is transphobic.

> For the record, I support mainstream trans rights. Then why the fuck are you bringing up this exclusionary t*rf shit? you sure have a really funny way of showing it.

Because I think that mainstream trans people are done a great disservice by trans extremists. Do you think trans people benefit from being associated with the kind of tweets on that website? Reasonable trans men and trans women are pushing back on extremist language and calls for violence that are perpetrated in their name.

Only by discussing this can peaceful coexistence be achieved.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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As much as I love open source, Gab should have never been open source. It seems very unwise to make a highly targeted free speech social media platform available for easy backend code analysis. No wonder they were hacked. https://git.rip/gab/gab-social

So, prefer security by obscurity?

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Adverse selection. If your differenciating feature is "you can say what you want without getting banned", your userbase is going to tend towards people who get banned on other platforms. In todays climate, that is mostly the far right. Compounding this is PR and network effects. Once they become known as the place for the far right, then more far righters go there, and more distant people avoid it.

> Adverse selection. If your differenciating feature is "you can say what you want without getting banned", your userbase is going to tend towards people who get banned on other platforms. In todays climate, that is mostly the far right. And in Hong Kong, it's anti-CCP protestors. In Iran, it is opponents of the theocracy. We can play this game all day. Tech's obsession with hating on Gab/Parler is based upon on the…

I dont care about their idendity. I do care about their offensive/hate speech though.

Saying racist sh*, and wanting to restrict the rights of minoritys is waaaay different then protesting against an opressive regime.

It is a shame, that the far right were and are able to use the ccp-protestors for their meanly targets.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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This increase of extreme assault on free-speech platforms should be worrying to everyone. Not too long ago, we were hailing the "internet" as a free fair space. Now it is a free fair space ... for everyone but some kind of people. I'm for free speech but this specific kind of targeted attacks is getting out of hand.

The free speech of facsists shouldnt be protected, Im glad there are hackers doing the right thing

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Your comment would make sense if Reddit and r/politics is an accurate description of the US population. But I'll have to disagree, since the comment above me suggests that there are a significant number of non-American Reddit users who lean more left than the average American, skewing the upvoting patterns. I'd argue that there are a different set of "artificial advantages" on the internet, such as that. And when I b…

Redditors lean farther left than the average american. The average internet user is also left of the average american because they trend younger. But it's also undeniable that the average American leans left. That's why Republicans lose the popular vote in both chambers of congress and the presidency nearly every election. Their positions are unpopular, that's why they get down voted on "mainstream" sites where the u…

Your American concept of "left" is still right of centre compared to other countries in the Anglosphere.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Parler is basically a direct clone of twitter's basic features. They use different names but have features similar to that of Twitter's tweet/like/retweet. Gab's current iteration is a mastodon fork (although iirc they don't participate in the fediverse via activitypub). Gab is similar to Twitter like Parler but is less of a direct clone, offering other features Twitter doesn't have. Gab has been along for longer and…

> "you can say anything that is not directly illegal in the US without fear of being banned or other moderation". That's not right at all. They both ban adult content and Gab will ban blasphemy. They also frequently remove drug content. They're stricter on banning speech than Twitter and the sites they fled from.

Also there are laws against said content:

https://cnsnews.com/news/article/penny-starr/state-dept-offi...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_obscenity_law

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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