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I am not sure we should add privacy protection to software license. Debian Free software guideline does not allow discriminate against using debian for evil.
This is plain false. Debian routinely disables trackers and homecalling functions in the packaged software and even in the documentation.
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You're obviously correct in the de jure sense, here. But there is also a matter of relationship expectation. An unstated assumption of using any "free" product is that it's not actually free. Canonical screwed up, to be sure, but I do think many of us just expect getting harassed by salespeople to be the cost of using a "free" product. Microsoft, on the other hand, charges me by the hour for using Azure. They've take…
Depends a lot on the free product. For a linux distro, my expectations are that it's "free" but support will cost you money. My expectation is not that it's "free" and the OS will spy on you and report back to HQ so sales can make more sales. If I don't give personal information on installation my expectation is the product is not harvesting or forwarding that information (For example, I expect that with Facebook, I…
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Mir and WAyland was because wayland couldn't do what they wanted technically. Snap came BEFORE flatpak. Flatpak was the "new competing standard" in that situation. And Gnome shell, quite frankly, sucked. IMO it still sucks, but back then it sucked WAY worse.
Yeah, I wouldn't put down Ubuntu's traditional attitude as "we'll copy something so we can own it" - it's more of a "we'll do whatever we think is better for the experience we provide, screw the community". Which is still misguided and fundamentally doomed to fail in the long run, but not as malicious as, say, Apple's moves. At the end of the day the scorecard reads: - Mir: failed - Unity: failed - Snap: mostly faili…
The register article on this https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/11/microsoft_azure_ubunt... has responses from Canonical and MS, which shed a bit more light on the situation. The Canonical quote is the most illuminating :- "As per the Azure T&Cs, Microsoft shares with Canonical, the publisher of Ubuntu, the contact details of developers launching Ubuntu instances on Azure. These contact details are held in Canonical…
We all know that you can't trust Microsoft, but a lot of people blindly trust Canonical just because they create a Linux distro. I haven't trusted Canonical since I noticed their pattern of creating competing alternatives to new Linux standards instead of helping them (Mir & Wayland, Snap & Flatpack, Unity & Gnome 3). It'd be one thing if they were bringing better ideas and long-term support to their alternatives, bu…
I'm starting to learn too much about apt to try and prevent things from reinstalling themselves.
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We are not talking about the same thing - those first hits are the "Live" ISO not the actual installation ISO; the "Legacy" (their word) installation ISO is the 7th link down on Google for "ubuntu server iso" below the Google injected "People also ask:" with a bunch of whatever you call those things they put there (forum and mailing list links usually).
Doesn't the live cd present a boot menu with a direct install option like others do? If not, that's even more annoying; it already requires a DVD these days because they have to include too much software, they should certainly be able to include a tui installer.
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You don't get to decide what is and isn't "Ubuntu", Canonical does. Did you likewise declare that Ubuntu isn't Ubuntu anymore when Canonical dropped Unity? or when they added snap? Or when they added or later removed the Amazon search plugin? When I'm paying for an official Azure version of Ubuntu on Azure, I darn well expect there will be a closer support relationship than the free desktop version.
> When I'm paying for an official Azure version of Ubuntu on Azure, I darn well expect there will be a closer support relationship than the free desktop version. Okay, but maybe other people don't want that if it entails their information being shared with a company they haven't initiated a business relationship with?
> haven't initiated a business relationship
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Mir is still going as one of the better Wayland compositors out there. Unity didn't fail: ongoing development on it was cancelled because there was no way to successfully monetize it. It was, and remains, one of the most successful desktops out there.
Everybody knows how the FOSS ecosystem works: if you don’t get buy-in from the community, a project dies. Unity wasn’t adopted by the community, and as soon as sugar-daddy money ran out, it died. That’s what failure looks like on the Linux desktop.
If your definition of community is "people who develop desktop environments for open source software" then you're already limiting the size of your community to a few dozen or so individuals, and we had a few dozen contributors to Unity so I'm not convinced of the strength of this argument.
If your definition of community is "people who don't use Unity" then of course "everybody knows" that's trivially true. Some people also know it's a tautology.
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It will definitely keep me avoiding marketplace offerings. All we do on Azure is spin up VMs / K8S deployments / Connections to on Prem. The one time we tried to set up SendGrid "from the marketplace", it failed horribly.
We tried making three Sendgrids for every environment but we werent aware that Azure has a limit of two per subscription... We got 'banned' and cannot change any of their passwords, cannot login, remove them, reset in any way, Sendgrid support sends us to Azure support. On Azure support we got an guy who barely spoke english and prolonged the case with meaningless messages for over six months after which we gave up,…
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We all know that you can't trust Microsoft, but a lot of people blindly trust Canonical just because they create a Linux distro. I haven't trusted Canonical since I noticed their pattern of creating competing alternatives to new Linux standards instead of helping them (Mir & Wayland, Snap & Flatpack, Unity & Gnome 3). It'd be one thing if they were bringing better ideas and long-term support to their alternatives, bu…
Mir and WAyland was because wayland couldn't do what they wanted technically. Snap came BEFORE flatpak. Flatpak was the "new competing standard" in that situation. And Gnome shell, quite frankly, sucked. IMO it still sucks, but back then it sucked WAY worse.
What exactly is it that you think Wayland couldn't do and why was it necessary to invent an incompatible application interface to achieve that?
> Snap came BEFORE flatpak. Flatpak was the "new competing standard" in that situation.
And AppImage came before snap.
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We all know that you can't trust Microsoft, but a lot of people blindly trust Canonical just because they create a Linux distro. I haven't trusted Canonical since I noticed their pattern of creating competing alternatives to new Linux standards instead of helping them (Mir & Wayland, Snap & Flatpack, Unity & Gnome 3). It'd be one thing if they were bringing better ideas and long-term support to their alternatives, bu…
I have to decrapify every ubuntu install. They have so much telemetry and autoupdate and other BS. I'm starting to learn too much about apt to try and prevent things from reinstalling themselves.