India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi • Hacker News Board

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

#181

Post by eklavya » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 5:43 AM UTC

davchana wrote: post #166

eklavya wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, police will control a rioting mob anyway they can. Maybe don’t brandish swords, try to run over public and police and attack people in your peaceful protest?

The Godi media you are watching does not show the Delhi police trampling over Tiranga, slashing tires, shooting tear gas over a distance of less than 20 feet, blocking the route agreed upon.

So the police should make sure not to trample on tiranga while controlling a rioting mob?

Shooting tear gas is worse than shooting bullets?

Let’s not get into what was agreed upon. For that just look at the list of broken promises provided by the police and it’s crystal clear what these people wanted to achieve.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

#182

Post by davchana » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 5:45 AM UTC

eklavya wrote: post #178

davchana wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please read again. I said, that violence is the reason 100s of people are in delhi jail now (guilty or not). & Please read again. Modi Bhakats are wishing the 1984 style sikh killings, same as their Mother india's murder started. They are not on sides of Sikh, or Muslim, or even Indian. They want India to be a piss drinker's Hindu Rashtar. I am defending & one of those group, who want India, its government & operatin…

Sources, sources and not your disgustingly twisted propaganda. Who is wishing Sikh killings? God stop it.

https://twitter.com/Razi4all/status/1354054590958862336?s=19

https://twitter.com/Nitesh_singh773/status/13540774444545392...

https://twitter.com/VinayDi61732460/status/13553694558035763...

https://twitter.com/IAmGMishra/status/1353985125550223361?s=...

https://twitter.com/jyotimishra2476/status/13539934891350179...

You Modi Godi Bhakats are wishing to teach Sikhs a lesson, by repeating 1984 & Godhra, burning & teaching lesson. I thought you are on HN, most probably not being paid Rs 2 by BJP per post. These tweet links are only by one search on Twitter Indira Gandhi. & Many of these have photos of Modi, Savarkar & such. You stop just repeating what Dalal media is feeding you, Fox news equivalent from India.

& Stop conveniently not answering my points, but twisting & gas lighting.

All I wish is Modi dictator goes away back to Gujrat if they want, people vote him out. Anybody who thinks about people, is not extremist, not lier, not fake, should be voted in. Not rahul gandi, not Kamal nath.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

#183

Post by selimthegrim » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 5:45 AM UTC

quantgenius wrote: post #73

selimthegrim wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So do you expect to send the army in in Punjab like 1990s Kashmir? Why was Modi’s handpicked LTG Murmu suddenly transferred when he came out in favor of restoring 4G? You have to have a plan to restore it, even your SC says so, you can’t just gazette new ordinance every day and do “the beatings will continue until morale improves”

In a democratic country, if you want to change policy you need to get elected. If you are a civil servant, you can advise but if the elected decision makers decide otherwise you either execute the orders or you resign. Allowing someone who refused to execute legal orders and who publicly expressed dissent to be transferred in this situation is actually recognition that healthy debate is good and speaking out in a dem…

Did they stop registering SIMs to Aadhaar card number? You're telling me they can't track Kashmiri SIMs outside of J & K?

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

#184

Post by Thorrez » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 5:47 AM UTC

hashhar wrote: post #158

Thorrez wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I looked at the comments by green accounts, and most are actually anti Indian government, rather than pro Indian government.

Make sure you have dead comments visible.

I do, I've had that on right from when I created this account.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

#185

Post by eklavya » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 5:47 AM UTC

eklavya wrote: post #178

davchana wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please read again. I said, that violence is the reason 100s of people are in delhi jail now (guilty or not). & Please read again. Modi Bhakats are wishing the 1984 style sikh killings, same as their Mother india's murder started. They are not on sides of Sikh, or Muslim, or even Indian. They want India to be a piss drinker's Hindu Rashtar. I am defending & one of those group, who want India, its government & operatin…

Sources, sources and not your disgustingly twisted propaganda. Who is wishing Sikh killings? God stop it.

Replying here as I can’t reply below. What is that? A show of sick fucks wishing people dead? What is your point? You can find those everyday on Twitter. Why are you trying to paint this disgusting picture based on that?

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

#186

Post by davchana » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 5:48 AM UTC

eklavya wrote: post #181

davchana wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Godi media you are watching does not show the Delhi police trampling over Tiranga, slashing tires, shooting tear gas over a distance of less than 20 feet, blocking the route agreed upon.

So the police should make sure not to trample on tiranga while controlling a rioting mob? Shooting tear gas is worse than shooting bullets? Let’s not get into what was agreed upon. For that just look at the list of broken promises provided by the police and it’s crystal clear what these people wanted to achieve.

Pulling a tiranga from tractor, & rolling it, & then trampling it over while nothing else is going on, is I think bad. Police Brutality, as a scare tactic will always fire back on dictator's face.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

#187

Post by intended » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 5:49 AM UTC

eklavya wrote: post #152

intended wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

India. The Indian approach to multicultural laws has its own merits, which I have seen lauded in German law journals. Indian divorce laws were moved forward for a few communities at a time - till at one day the courts said "The laws are such for Hindus, Muslims and for Parsees. The fact that they have not been reflected in Christian practices is also incorrect so we hereby update the Christian divorce code" Over the…

Sure, so what is your point exactly? That local customs trump women’s right to be treated as humans? Really, please look into the practices and then tell me you could ever want that for another person. By that logic Hindus should still encourage/force widows to burn at the pyre with their dead husbands. It was truly disgusting to see the entire left lobby, the self proclaimed champions for human rights shamelessly pr…

You seem to be conflating the issue back to the usual axis of islamaphobia. So why aren’t marital rape laws not enacted in India?

Or for that matter how come there was such a furor when the court decided that all Hindu pilgrims regardless of gender could visit Sabarimala?

Do note - the vast majority of Indian laws have moved progressively despite political pressures. The divorce laws in India were regularly opposed by political parties for example - including the BJP.

Any progressive movement in laws have been by your vilified liberals. The only reason triple talaq is on the BJP radar is because it dovetails with their happy topic of islam bashing.

> https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/bjp-leaders-express-di...

Laws in America and the west did not recognize gay marriage, until the idea carried enough cultural weight for it to be enacted.

India on the other hand, is a combination of modernity and medievalism (gotra). The progressive work in our courts and laws is precisely because Ambedkar and a slew of people fought for it.

Otherwise our laws would be far more basic than you would like to believe.

In this government we already instituted laws to persecute minorities. Imagine where we would be if it weren’t for the years of work by your hated “liberals”.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

#188

Post by lord_washington » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 5:49 AM UTC

MichaelMoser123 wrote: post #173

> Agriculture employs about half of India's 1.3 billion population I am not familiar with politics in India, so my question is: how does the BJP manage to push laws that (seem to) adversly affect the interest of half of the population? Isn't that political suicide for the BJP?

It's not clear if the laws do "adversly" affect interest of all farmers. The laws target APMC's monopsony which has been already diluted by many states, which means that farmers are not totally dependent on APMC. Hence in many areas farmers are largely indifferent and in certain are clearly supporting the laws[1]. In Punjab and Haryana, the mandatory procurement by FCI(regardless of the demand) and the APMC system works to its maximum efficiency[2]. Hence the large scale support there.

1. https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/who-are-shetkari...

2. https://m.economictimes.com/news/economy/agriculture/how-ind...

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

#189

Post by bgdam » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 5:50 AM UTC

quantgenius wrote: post #146

davchana wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No worries, I understand. Many sikhs here support Trump. Mostly who are here since ages, & are businessman, does not pay minimum wage, employ & exploit asylum seekers. And I am also sikh, although does not wear any sikh symbols like Hair Turban. No where I said we need congress government. Modi dictator need to go away. India was progressing way way more in Manmohans rule (yes, there were million bad issues were too,…

Also to be clear, I’m not super pro BJP or anyone. I’m pro competence. I’m certainly not pro some of the nonsense that the various state BJP governments pull, including the past beef related hysteria. Modi himself is not pro that nonsense as he has mentioned more than once. However, to govern he does need to create a big tent. Beef ban vs 15% of Indian women legally treated as chattel. Which battle would you prioriti…

I don't understand how banning beef has anything to do with Indian women being treated as chattel.

You can prevent the latter without dictating my food habits. Also, if you're so intent on saving the cow, why is India still the world's largest exporter of beef? Because banning exports of beef will hurt the corporate masters who fund the BJP.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

#190

Post by davchana » Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 5:50 AM UTC

eklavya wrote: post #164

intended wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No No, you are a Sikh, so you will have value when they need to show off that they are a pluralistic country to the west. I mean the BJP government passed a law that said "we will allow citizenship for minorities who are of all religions, except Tibetans and Muslims" Then in the next breath talk about how this is not targeting a specific religion. I really do hope people argue the case, because at least for external…

No, they said all people who are ALREADY here (on it before 2014) and were promised protection and citizenship at the time of partition will have that promise fulfilled. Everybody and people of all kinds get citizenship using the same rule as before, there are no bans or changes.

All who are NOT Muslim. Its on I think 3rd page of the CAA bill.