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India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by eklavya »

davchana wrote: post #91
actuator wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think we are talking about the same thing. I was talking about the protestors attacking cops of which there are a lot of videos on social media. The video I linked above shows them jumping from a fort to save themselves.

Yes, but those are selective video shots. Many videos on tiktok & whatsapp show where Reporters are telling their cameraman, Dont Show that, when camera goes towards Police slashing the tyres, throwing the flag at ground, & attacking 1 protester by 4+ Cop goons.

Yeah, police will control a rioting mob anyway they can. Maybe don’t brandish swords, try to run over public and police and attack people in your peaceful protest?

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by davchana »

eklavya wrote: post #159
davchana wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, agreed, & thats why 100s of Sikhs are now in Jails around Red Fort, without any access to Lawyer or Phone Calls. But Modi Bhakats are tweeting all the way Missing Indira Mummy. They also want to burn Sikhs just like any power hungry party, be it 1984 like Congress, 2002 like Godhra.

Modi bhakts would be on the side of sikhs surely. Sikh community is the reason Hinduism survives in large parts of India. The people you are calling “sikhs” were throwing policemen off heights. Do they get to kill without impunity? What are you defending here exactly?

Please read again. I said, that violence is the reason 100s of people are in delhi jail now (guilty or not).

& Please read again. Modi Bhakats are wishing the 1984 style sikh killings, same as their Mother india's murder started. They are not on sides of Sikh, or Muslim, or even Indian. They want India to be a piss drinker's Hindu Rashtar. I am defending & one of those group, who want India, its government & operating body free of any religious bigots, any extremists (any belief), any supremacists.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by windex »

Thorrez wrote: post #148
windex wrote: post #116

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Almost all India threads that mention the Indian government and the ruling BJP have supporters jumping in to support their party. I assume this happens a little more when the parties are extreme right/left wing. They arrive via whatsapp groups asking members for support and a link. Soon enough the targeted sites end up being downvote/upvote bot parties unless there is strong moderation. The media in India is muzzled…

You're saying that people are creating brand new HN accounts to support the Indian government? I don't see that. I looked at all the comments by green accounts in this thread: Pro Indian government: 1 comment, 1 account Anti Indian government: 8 comments, 4 accounts Unknown: 2 comments, 1 account

I am saying that this is the trend on all threads that are critical of the Indian government and calls out its propaganda. It's either that or down votes.

It is difficult to call out bad behavior by government.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by eklavya »

intended wrote: post #136
davchana wrote: post #122

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Sahi pakre hai, yes, true, for BJP, Only Hindus are state subjects, us others are just extra, cannon fodder.

No No, you are a Sikh, so you will have value when they need to show off that they are a pluralistic country to the west. I mean the BJP government passed a law that said "we will allow citizenship for minorities who are of all religions, except Tibetans and Muslims" Then in the next breath talk about how this is not targeting a specific religion. I really do hope people argue the case, because at least for external…

No, they said all people who are ALREADY here (on it before 2014) and were promised protection and citizenship at the time of partition will have that promise fulfilled. Everybody and people of all kinds get citizenship using the same rule as before, there are no bans or changes.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by windex »

ffiw wrote: post #153
Thorrez wrote: post #148

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You're saying that people are creating brand new HN accounts to support the Indian government? I don't see that. I looked at all the comments by green accounts in this thread: Pro Indian government: 1 comment, 1 account Anti Indian government: 8 comments, 4 accounts Unknown: 2 comments, 1 account

You won't get a reply. For presenting any evidence like that on /r/india you would be promptly get banned. These guys ruined /r/india it's now full of anti modi bhajan 24/7. The only reason I still stick with reddit is because of some technical subs like /r/programming. Now these people aren't leaving even hacker news.

Modi is India's Trump I hear. Lot of similarities except for the genocide.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by davchana »

eklavya wrote: post #161
davchana wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but those are selective video shots. Many videos on tiktok & whatsapp show where Reporters are telling their cameraman, Dont Show that, when camera goes towards Police slashing the tyres, throwing the flag at ground, & attacking 1 protester by 4+ Cop goons.

Yeah, police will control a rioting mob anyway they can. Maybe don’t brandish swords, try to run over public and police and attack people in your peaceful protest?

The Godi media you are watching does not show the Delhi police trampling over Tiranga, slashing tires, shooting tear gas over a distance of less than 20 feet, blocking the route agreed upon.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by selimthegrim »

quantgenius wrote: post #134
selimthegrim wrote: post #97

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>because the Supreme Court of India like most of the silent majority in India understands that a citizen's rights only exist so long as the State itself exists. There is basic structure doctrine, no? Otherwise why not just have Emergency again > The majority of state citizens of Kashmir, certainly a majority of the residents and descendants of residents of Kashmir in the 1970s, today resides outside Kashmir. Most lef…

No, all Kashmiris are state subjects. However virtually all pandits, about 40% of the population in 1970 and about 35% of other Kashmiris have left the state and that is a majority. Kashmir, the state is a pretty big place. It’s not just the valley.

Now you're telling me Pandits went from 40% in 1970 to 5% before 1990? Did Dogras in Jammu become Pandits now? Are you talking about Ladakh being hived off?

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by kamaal »

eklavya wrote: post #144
webmobdev wrote: post #141

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No, thanks. I am not interested in helping you whitewash their history. It is common public knowledge that the founders of RSS were an admirer of Hitler and his party. (And they still continue to admire and glorify Hitler). The RSS is also a thrice banned terrorist organization whose members are involved in various communal riots and also assassinated Gandhi. And no, Subhash Chandra Bose is not a Nazi because he didn…

Yes, why counter with facts when you can say it’s just “common knowledge”. I will not try to talk you out of your beliefs. But I can assure you from first hand extensive experience, RSS is not “nazi”. You are making extraordinary claims at least specify one “admiring and continue to admire” source.

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Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by eklavya »

intended wrote: post #127
alex_smart wrote: post #59

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How many cellphone towers from JIO have the protesters destroyed till now? It was over 1500 last I checked, but that was like end of December. Destroying private property based on arbit FUD propaganda. Oh so peaceful.

Ah yes, when we can't demonize them as minorities, or reflect on the largely peaceful protest, we return to "who will think of the ~~busses~~ I mean telecom towers!" The ones owned by a company that has a lot to gain from these remarkable laws! I mean, property damage is a stones throw too far, given that the government has listened and responded, and created laws which don't remove access to courts for anyone with a…

So sometimes the courts are corrupt and dancing to the tune of the industrialist or it’s the beacon of justice, when convenient? Sometimes in the same argument? I do agree though that clause was asinine.

Even if reliance gets to benefit, is the farmer being harmed for it? Poor farmer has a lot to gain from this bill. They get supply of funds right from by muting seeds and fertilisers to having assured income. Just paint the “industrialist” as the monster and destroy away?

What exactly are the demands of this protest? They seem to have changed a lot from the start. What about protesting when something actually has gone wrong and you can actually point to a loss?

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by vorpalhex »

nsenifty wrote: post #154
gruez wrote: post #109

meta: why is there an influx of green users in this thread, and why does it look like they're pushing a specific narrative?

I flagged this post and many others related to India since it seems to attract the level of discourse which doesn't really belong in HN. There's a camps of extremely pro and anti government views that both twist facts to suit their agenda.

Attracting polarized views doesn't mean the topic isn't appropriate. The discourse doesn't set the value of the topic.
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